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steph mccurdy Posted on Oct 19, 2006
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Drain/Spin won't work unless lid is lifted up

We have a 2 year old whirlpool top loader washing machine. About two weeks ago I noticed it sounded different during the initial draining. When I lifted up the lid, it was not spinning while it was draining. Once I lifted the lid, the tub shifted and when I closed the lid, it spun. Now, I have to run down and lift the lid each time I hear it start to drain in order for the tub to spin. The acutal "spin" cycle works fine, but wont working during the drain/rinse part of the cycle. Please advise what the potential problem could be and a possible solution. Thank You

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  • Anonymous Feb 23, 2008

    yes

  • Anonymous Mar 16, 2014

    lid lock light is off during spin cycle

  • Anonymous Mar 18, 2014

    At the different cycles, my washer doesn't spin. After lifting the lid, it starts spinning. Would that be the lid switch?

  • Anonymous Mar 18, 2014

    The washing machine wont drain out all the water out. It starts then it stops and when we lift the lid up and close it, it starts again then it stops.

  • Anonymous Mar 23, 2014

    tub full and machine wont drain or spin

  • Anonymous Mar 24, 2014

    wont go through cycles unless you push down or slam lid between each cycle. What is wrong with machine?

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Having same problem. Saw a post somewhere else that said it was a bad timer. Have you found a solution?

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Curdy, it almost sounds like your lid switch is loose or fractured and the lid actuator is not making the switch. Check this out first and post back...Catriver.

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When ours had the same problem (wouldn't start spinning unless the lid was raised and lowered again) we looked at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) and noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again. (Third time was the charm.)

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

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You don't have to remove the drum.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

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Remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission.

Pull the transmission, remove the clutch (there is a spring clip that holds the clutch on the main agitator shaft), remove the 8 screws carefully the transmission holds 15Oz of 80-90 weight gear oil (non detergent gear oil from a local auto parts dealer), remove the clip holding the main spin gear on and check the plastic
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My Whirlpool washing machine (approx.9 yrs old) will not go into the spin cycle regardless of what wash setting the machine is on (regular, gently cycle, etc). Any suggestions? Do you recommend having a...

Based upon the age, it may be as simple as replacing the lid switch.
Open and close lid, listen for 'clicking' sound. If no 'clicking' sound, replace lid switch. Here's how:

To access it REMOVE POWER, lift the console by one of three ways.
1. Look in the back of the console, in each corner there will be a screw, unscrew until the console can be pushed forward.
2. The trim on either side can be pried off from the top, grasp and pull forward to expose to expose a screw.
3. Insert a putty knife under each corner, push to release a latch.

With console lifted:
1. You will find a lid switch connector (white in color). Unplug the switch from the connector.

2. There will be two brass colored clips. Place a flat blade screwdriver straight down into the opening on top of the washer and into the groove of the clip. Push the screwdriver down and away from you and the clip will release.

3. Open the lid of the washer and place your hand under the front rim of the opening (DO NOT grab the wash tub). Tilt and slide cabinet forward to remove.

If you need further assistance, let me know
Regards,
reg501

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