Intermatic T104R 208-277Volt 40-amp Timer Switch-Double Pole / Single Throw Logo

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Pool timer has voltage but clock and pump motor will not run

Clock motor will not run/turn. I replaced it but the new one doesn't turn either. So I wired the line/loads together to bypass the timer, but the pump still does not run. It's as if I have no power, but my volt meter says I do at all terminals. Everything worked fine until a week ago (we did have excessive rain).

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Most cases pump motors are 230 v. must check w meter set at around 700 v ac. 130 + 130 doesn't make 230 . check the two lines at the breaker and work your wak back to the motor. how to voltage test a breaker how to voltage test breaker Google Search

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SOURCE: Hello, I installed a T104

It doesn't sound like you are getting a true 230 volts to the timer. Measure from terminal 1 to terminal 3. You should read 230 volts. If you are getting 230 volts between 1 and 3, return the timer, it's defective. If you are not getting 230 between 1 and 3, then you'll have to have a look inside the electric panel to see what has been miswired. There should be a 2 pole breaker with a white and a black wire connected to it that goes out to the timer.

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Pool pump clock

T104M used WG1573 clock motor:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-Intermatic-clock-motor.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#T100
The timer mechanism has metal gears, while the clock motor has plastic gears. If the metal gears get dirty and bind, it will strip the plastic gears.
Turn off power, pull timer out of box, Clean out timer with compressed air, and spray WD40, add a bit of white grease to lever where trippers make contact, then replace clock motor ... and buy another set of trippers to have on-hand since they are designed to wear down so timer will last longer.
If timer body is broken so dial does not rotate, then buy new T104 and snap new mechanism into old box. Buying whole T104 with enclosure is cheaper than buying T104M mechanism only.

If you need further help, I’m available over the phone at https://www.6ya.com/expert/gene_9f0ef4df2f9897e7

May 15, 2013 • Pool & Spa
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Just intstalled a T104M according to the diagram and all the diagrams found on the web. The clock timer doesn't work. I can manually shut off the pump from the timer. I thought it was a bad tim

T104M is 208-277 timer mechanism that fits inside any Intermatic enclosure.
If voltage is not correct, then clock motor will not operate.
Since you did not say what voltage, I assume you have 240Volt pool pump.
Open following link to see the many ways to wire this timer:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
It is possible that you have the Load and Line wires reversed.
Line wire come from circuit breaker, and Load wires go to pump.

If the T104M mechanism is part of a control panel with more than one timer, and/or a freeze control, then re-post question with more specific information.

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I have had a T103 running my pool pump for the last several years. All of a sudden the timer would switch on but not off. It was like the dial did not have enough torque to force it to switch and would...

1) T103 is 120Volt timer that can control multiple loads and different voltages..
If new timer dial stops turning after the tripper passes, then wiring from circuit breaker is probably reversed with wiring going to pump.
Open following link to identify correct wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T103

2) Add a comment for specific help with wiring, and I will respond.
Give details of pump voltage, and description of each wire.

3) To fix old timer, Replace 3-watt, 120Volt WG1570 clock motor.
Open following link for illustrations showing how to replace clock motor:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html#clock

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Hi - My Intermatic T101P3 timer motor stops after it turns off the pool pump. I have one start and one stop time in a 24 hr period. I have to manually start the pump at the timer in the morning,...

Sounds like the clock leads are on the wrong posts, or at least the hot one is. If if was moved to the load side then manually starting the timer will also power up the clock motor. As soon as the clock trips the off timer, the pump and the clock motor are both off. Examine the clock leads to the wiring diagram inside the clock box cover to ensure they are connected correctly. I bet you'll find one of the wires is misplaced.

John
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So my intermetic time is broken, the gears dont turn, and the on/ off override isnt working. I need my pool heater, what do i do?

Sounds like you lost power to the timer. Look in your electric panel for a tripped breaker. Turn it OFF then back ON.
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When pool pump stops at various times when it should be running and not everyday, but sometimes twice a day, if I tap the Tork timer dial it turns on. Only the timer dial, tapping anything else does not...

Could be loose wiring, or bad clock motor.
Check if wires are connected, and make sure only the copper part of wire and no insulation is under the screw plate.
Make sure all wires are same gauge so that screw plate clamps down on wires.
Open following link to identify timer and then add a comment with model number and voltage for possible help. Tork T1100 series has replacement clock motor.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Tork-timers-and-manuals.html
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The timer clicked OFF but poot pump kept running. Had to trip breaker to stop pool pump.

Your Intermatic timer has a manual override.
The override is a good diagnostic.
Click the manual override and see if pump turns on and off.

Next, watch if the clock is rotating.
If the clock is rotating, the OFF tripper may be worn out and you need a new tripper

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If the clock wheel is not rotating, you need a new clock motor.
If you have T104, your clock motor is 240Volts
If you have T101 or T103, your clock motor is 125Volts
Buy trippers and clock motors at Grainger
Clock motor replacement takes a small star-screwdriver bit
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi

If your manual override is not working, then the gears might be rusty and need to be cleaned or your timer needs to be replaced.
You can buy same model number timer and then swap the insides without changing boxes.

Add a comment if you need more help.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
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Timer stopped running so I replace timer motor. However the timer still does not run. I can still turn pool pump on manually. Will I have to replace entire unit?

T103 clock motor is 125 volt WG1570
1) If you bought the 240V WG1573, the clock will not operate
2) If you connected the motor wires to wrong terminals, then clock will not operate.
3) If original box label says T103, but 240V T104 was installed in same box, and you bought wrong voltage motor
4) Test for 120Volts across terminals A and 1, and make sure clock motor matches voltage of timer, and clock motor wires are connected to terminals A and 1.
Open following links:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#103
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Intermatic timer for my pool pump - clock is not running

Usually the timer motor is bad when that happens. Replacement timer motors are available from websites like this one:
http://www.aplussupply.com/intermatic/timermotors.htm

Be sure to get the right voltage timer motor. Intermatic T101's and T103's use a 120 volt timer motor (Cat# WG1570) and the T104 uses a 240 volt timer motor (Cat# WG1573).

If you don't want to mess around replacing the timer motor, you can purchase a new timer, and as long as the existing enclosure is in good shape, just swap out the guts.
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T104 clock stopped running. must now use switch

Intermatic Timer Motor WG1573 / WG1573-5 clock POOL FIX .. EBAY .. TO INSTALL THIS MOTOR REMOVE SCREW ON LEFT AND JUST BACK SCREW ON RIGHT A FEW TURNS, TIMER WILL ROCK UP OUT OF BASE THIS WAY . UN-HOOK WIRES ONE AT A TIME AND INSTALL WIRES FROM NEW MOTOR ONE AT A TIME.. THESE TWO WHITE WIRES GO TO LINE 1 AND 2 THESE ARE THE WIRES THAT GO TO THE 220 VOLT BREAKER ... NEED MORE HELP JUST GIVE ME A BUZZ.. JAY .. AND PLEASE VOTE .. THANKS JAY
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