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Anonymous Posted on Dec 06, 2011

Constant filling and siphoning of water sans cycle.

OK. So, I set the washer normally. It fills and fills and just keeps pumping the water down the drain. Occasionally it will shut off when it reaches its fill mark, but the water automatically starts to pump out prior to agitating. IF the washer starts to agitate, it stops pretty within a minute and starts to fill again. It would run indefinitely if I did not stop it. I checked to hoses on the back and everything looks like it should per factory recommendations. Suggestions????

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