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Water tank level indicator sinks to the bottom when water tank is full.

The small float block in the water tank, floats when the tank is full of water and tank removed from the machine, when you install the tank back on the machine, the float sinks to the bottom of the tank. The machine says "fill water tank". We have4 second same machine, when install other machine tank, the float stays afloat - all ok, Why would float sink when tank is re-installed on machine ?

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Hi,

I think the float is up and down, try to take it out and turn it.

Look at the float in the other tank to see if it is same position, the rounded side should be down.

Let me know if you get it to work.

Best regards
/Mirran

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