20 Most Recent Miele WT945 Front Load Washer / Dryer Questions & Answers

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Washing light flashes when in drying cycle. What does this mean?

It means the NTC sensor reading is not what is expected. This is my experience when it happened on my machine when for some reason (still not known) the thermal cutout on the dryer tripped. This could have been due to an uneven load causing excessive shaking as I recall doing a towel wash recently.The next time a drying cycle was done there was no heat to the drum and the machine thinks there may be a fault with the NTC senser that reads the temperature of the drum, as its not reading as high as it would normally. This causes it to flash the Washing light, and store an F3 error code in memory.As this code relates to the temperature sensor the machine can't trust it to regulate the wash temperature so it effectively disables the water heater. The next wash cycle will be too cold. Again the machine will see the unexpected temperature and flash the Washing light.In my case the code is F3 as the sensor isn't short (F1) or open (F2) just reading an unexpected value (F3).At this stage this looks like a heater fault but I seem to be lucky because there is no fault with the NTC sensor (it correctly measures 13KOhms at room temperature (24 degrees)), no fault with the heater element (reads about 24 Ohms), no fault with the heater relay and no obvious problem with the control board. If any of these are faulty they would need to be replaced. I don't know anything about the thermal breaker at this point. It seems like the control board might be faulty because it doesn't even try to turn on the water heater relay, but I think it behaves this way as a safety measure because it has a temperature sensor related fault stored and so it would be unsafe to turn on the heater. There is no obvious way of seeing the error code, I wonder if a number of these control boards have been replaced when they only required the code cleared.To Read/Clear the error code, you go to service mode:( ) Turn off machine( ) both dials to 12 o'clock( ) Close door( ) press and hold Soak and Water Plus buttons ( ) Power on machine( ) Release buttons when the LEDs on the right wake up.Now turn the Washing knob anti-clockwise one step to Rinse out fluff position. If the display shows "c" then there are no faults (ie 'c'orrect) otherwise it shows F, then the code. Turn off the machine now to clear it. Then go back into service mode and verify there are no faults (c)The machine is now caplable of washing, but it failed again when asked to dry. After finding and resetting the thermal cutout breaker at the top of the machine and clearing the code again, it now drys properly as well..If the breaker trips again (try it with extra dry setting perhaps) maybe need to replace it, and/or defluff the dryer? It seems OK so far.
9/20/2021 9:54:04 PM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Sep 20, 2021
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Miele WT945 Dryer Problems - Stage 2 fix

STAGE 2: EASY ROOT CAUSE FIX (1 hour)

The next stage is to attempt a cleanout of the fan box itself. Fortunately you can get to some of what is needed without dismounting the whole box (if you want to bite the bullet on this straight away, go to Stage 3).

Dismount the heater by undoing the two large bolts at the front holding it to the drum, and two Torx bolts at the rear. Although the heater is still attached to the flexible rubber outlet at the front, it will swing up and off to one side just enough to reveal an upward-facing hole at the rear – this is the air outlet from the fan box. Peer down into this hole and you will be astonished at the buildup of mummified fluff and goo – it’s similar to papier mache.

Draw up a comfortable chair, fix up a desk lamp to shine down the hole, and start unpicking the goo with a fine metal hook (a dentist-style hooked probe is ideal – Maplin do a good set). First clean out the hole, then probe deeper to clean out each fan blade. It’s fiddly and quite a long reach down the hole, but by no means impossible. Turn the motor manually to move on to the next blade, and every so often vacuum out the hole with a small nozzle to remove the pile of dislodged goo. Unfortunately the goo is too adherent to come out with the vacuum alone, without unpicking first.

Finally, if you are confident with moving parts and mains electricity, you could finish by using the first few seconds of a dryer cycle to get the fan itself to blow the remaining dislodged goo out of the hole. Have the vacuum going while you do this to avoid a fountain of fluff! Also, be very careful that the heater and its wiring does not obstruct the motor while you are doing this.

With luck this will make a huge difference to the dryer’s performance, not only eliminating the motor seizures but generally restoring the airflow power considerably.

If you’re still having problems, or if you have an uneasy feeling about all the goo you still suspect is in there that you couldn’t see or reach from the hole, read my next tip 'Stage 3/4 fix'.
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Miele WT945 Dryer Problems - Stage 3/4 fix

STAGE 3: THE ‘PROPER’ FIX (4 hours)

Unfortunately, if you want to go further the next stage of disassembly is horribly inaccessible. The Miele man rated it as probably the most difficult job on the machine, but said it was feasible and that he would personally undertake it if it was his machine rather than move to Stage 4. The challenge is to get the fan box itself off, which extends deep down into the rear of the machine where it eventually plugs into the back of the drum. And the back panel of the machine does not come off or swing out like the front does – the back and the sides are one piece of sheet metal. So you’re stuck with manipulating the thing at arm’s length in a very narrow gap, and to add to the fun there are some very sharp edges down there.

I've now personally done this job - it's a two-person task, took us around 4 hours but is feasible.

So (omitting some of the obvious smaller tasks like disconnecting wires and cable ties as needed), in addition to Stage 2 disassembly:

- undo a further Torx bolt holding the fan box to the drum, just to the left of the outlet hole you worked on in Stage 2, and loosen another bolt near the motor which holds a slot in the fan box casing to the drum

- remove the fan motor (held by two bolts, one low and invisible on its mounting bracket)

- remove the fan box's air inlet from the hole in the back of the drum that it slots into. This is right at the bottom of the fan box and thus very inaccessible. Eventually I found a long piece of sturdy wood (around 4 x 1cm section) could be poked down to this point (between the rear of the drum and the front of the fan box) and then gently pulled forward to lever out the air inlet.

- using Corbin-type pliers on the clips, remove the four hoses that connect to the fan box (best to do this once the air inlet is free from the previous step, as you can then lift the fan box up a little with the hoses still connected, which makes access to the clips a lot easier.

- remove the fan box from the machine, and unscrew the Torx screws holding the white plastic cover (which includes the condensor unit) to the metal casing. Go very carefully here - corrosion can cause stiff and maybe sheared screws. Best to soak the screws with WD40 beforehand where they thread into the metal casing.

- remove the fan rotor by undoing the nyloc nut on the shaft. It (the rotor) is a tight fit on the shaft and may need some gentle encouragement with a hammer. Pause again to be amazed at the amount of fluff. Clean everything out fully (fan rotor, metal fan housing, white plastic cover/condensor unit, black rubber strip which seals the two halves of the fanbox together, hole at the rear of the drum which the air inlet plugs into.

- replace the plastic cover using some fresh silicone sealant around the edge, on top of the black rubber strip, to make it watertight.

- reassemble everything in reverse order. When it comes to reinserting the air inlet to the back of the drum, wet the inlet and the rubber gasket with copious soapy water. Even so the fit is very stiff indeed - just pushing with a thumb from the rear will not work. Solution: remove the white plastic cap from the inspection hole on the rear panel. Find a sturdy short cylindrical object (a large spark plug socket from a socket set is ideal) which will fit through this hole and press on the bottom of the fan box acting as a drift. Then rig up a lever (perhaps a horizontal wooden batten levering against a door frame) which will allow you to exert controlled pressure (a lot of it!) on the drift. Pack another wooden batten down the front of the drum to lock it in place, otherwise you will be wasting effort pushing the drum forward against its springs. You should feel the inlet push back into place. Look down from the top with a torch - if you can still see the sharp flange around the inlet tube, it's not pressed home enough.


STAGE 4: THE OFFICIAL MIELE FIX – FOR INFORMATION.

Miele technicians will only replace the fan box, not open, clean and refit it as described above. So the ‘official’ fix is to pay the callout charge, plus the infamous £400 for a new fan box,
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Miele dryer stopped drying. There is no heat.

I've just published some 'Tips' on the WT945's dryer2_bing.gif problems. Apparently they won't appear on fixya.com's Tip List for another 24 hours, so here are the URLs. Hope this helps - Stage 1 is particularly relevant.

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177912-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_stage

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177920-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_1_fix

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177928-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_2_fix

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177934-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_3_4_fix
6/5/2016 2:27:55 PM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Jun 05, 2016
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Miele WT945 drier removal

Hi dear. It is very complicated work. I can suggest you should not involve doing that but if you know what you are doing try that out. See if it helps. Common problem: Stuck drying air fan shaft. 1- Unplug machine from power. Remove top cover. 2- RHS at the back,on outer drum horizontally mounted motor,drives a belt. 3- Try to rotate motor shaft (impeller) by hand, see if it's hard to rotate. Try to make it free to rotate. 3- If you have a capacitance meter, check value of capacitor should be in range of 2.5 uF if not replace capacitor. Beyond that you need to get tech. to assist your machine. I hope that helps so far. Thanks.
6/1/2016 5:58:05 PM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Jun 01, 2016
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Main internal fuse location for Miele WT 945

Hi Dear. As I know,your machine does not have replaceable fuse in it. Thanks.
3/11/2016 11:51:13 AM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Mar 11, 2016
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Water leaking fron fluff filter

This happened after we cleaned the filter, and it was because it's easy to put it back crookedly and the threads cross. Make sure you are pointing it down a bit and don't force it for the first 3 turns so you know the threads are correctly engaged. You have to use a bit of welly after - when it's right the cap is inside the housing by a few mm all around its circumference
8/3/2015 12:56:39 PM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Aug 03, 2015
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My Miele wt945 leaks water at end of final spin cycle.

is water coming out of the hose or the plastic housing? if the hose then it has a hole or tear, if the housing then the pump needs replacement 25699859-up413230zer0uf0bq1q5iqv1-4-0.jpg 25699859-up413230zer0uf0bq1q5iqv1-4-2.jpg 25699859-up413230zer0uf0bq1q5iqv1-4-5.jpg 25699859-up413230zer0uf0bq1q5iqv1-4-9.jpg 25699859-up413230zer0uf0bq1q5iqv1-4-14.jpg
5/23/2015 9:10:32 PM • Miele WT945... • Answered on May 23, 2015
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Rinse light keeps flashing and doesnt drain or spin

I think you will find it could be the circuit board. Have a look on line for a replacement because it should be easy to fit and save your self a fortune for a repair man!
4/11/2015 9:04:06 AM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Apr 11, 2015
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Why doesThe washing powder remains in the drawer after the cycle has finished?

Water input normally moves powder. Was there water going in?
2/20/2015 12:39:55 AM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Feb 20, 2015
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Miele WT945 Dryer Problems - stage by stage fixing (Introduction)

After two years of regular dryer fan seizure, and having called out a Miele technician to fix an unrelated problem on the WT945 (main water heater shorted), I pumped him for more information on the dryer side of things. I have to say he was extremely helpful and straightforward with his advice. So – with much help from the expert – I’ve attempted a complete summary of the dryer problem and its various solutions, which hopefully may be of interest to fellow sufferers. Good luck!


Introduction

Dryer fan seizure seems to be a common problem with the WT945 as it ages. The symptom is (usually) a flashing ‘dryer’ light on the front panel and wet, cold clothes instead of a good drying cycle. If you’re familiar with your Miele sounds, there is also the absence of the high-pitched fan motor noise when drying (although the main drum still ‘tumbles’).

Before you attempt a fix, please be aware of safety issues. If you’re not confident about working on mains appliances with large, heavy moving parts, I would not recommend moving beyond Stage 1. In any case, always work with the power off, and beware of the heater (the long rectangular box sitting on top of the drum) – it can get very hot indeed.

First understand your components. When you take the top off the machine (screws under white plastic caps on each side of the top, about 5 cm in from the front), you will see a very obvious electric motor at the top rear right corner of the unit. This is the fan motor, which (through a rubber belt) drives a shaft that goes into a much larger, flattish unit bolted onto the back of the drum. This larger unit is the ‘fan box’, and hidden within it is the dryer fan that moves the air that does the drying (similar to a hairdryer). The small nylon ‘fan’ mounted on the front of the motor shaft (which cools the motor itself) is a red herring – this isn’t the fan we’re concerned with.

You will undoubtedly drop tools into the machine at some stage. Don’t panic and don’t mess about with magnets on strings etc – it’s far quicker to open the whole front panel which hinges on the right like a door. Take out the detergent tray, undo three Torx screws revealed around the edges of the tray holder, undo the three bolts behind the main door of the machine (these aren’t as fundamental as they look – nothing is going to fall off!). Open the filter flap and unclip the filter drain outlet from the inside of the flap. Open the door by breaking the seal and overcoming the spring clip at the base of the left hand side (can be quite stiff). Access is now pretty easy to the ‘floor’ of the machine to retrieve your tools. When closing the front again, don’t forget to feed the emergency door release plastic tab through the hole at the top of the filter flap aperture, otherwise it will be hidden inside the machine next time you want to use it.

See my next tip 'Stage 1 fix' to start work.
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How do I get access to the dryer fan in a WT945?

I've just published some 'Tips' on the WT945's dryer problems. Apparently they won't appear on fixya.com's Tip List for another 24 hours, so here are the URLs. Hope this helps - Stages 2 and 3 are particularly relevant.

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177912-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_stage

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177920-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_1_fix

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177928-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_2_fix

http://www.fixya.com/support/r4177934-miele_wt945_dryer_problems_stage_3_4_fix
1/2/2015 7:01:38 PM • Miele WT945... • Answered on Jan 02, 2015
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