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Hi, I own a 2004 roadking 9,300 miles on bike. I noticed my oil had the color of "hot choclate" I drained the crankcase and replaced the oil, i rode the bike for about 10 miles and when I checked the oil it turned the color of "hot choclate" I can't figure out what is causing this to happen. Any help & advice would be greatly appreciated. Vince

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Are you sure you're checking the engine oil. On your RK, the oil dipstick is a large knob about two inches in diameter located on the corner of the transmission. Now, the transmission dipstick is a small dipstick on a plug that you take out with a hex key or Allen wrench. I cannot understand how your engine oil could possibly turn that color in a short ten mile ride. I've seen this on transmissions that have not been serviced regularily. Moisture from condensation gets into the transmission and mixes with the oil. When the bike sits, the oil and water seperate and the water will cause rust to form on metal parts. When the bike is run again, the rusty water again mixes with the transmisson oil and makes it look like "choclate milk". I have never seen engine oil do this even though I've seen engines that have been overheated to the point of destruction. It sounds like water in the oil. If it is water, I have no idea how it's getting into the engine unless someone is putting it in there intentionally. I had one guy that kept getting water in his fuel tank. He blamed the gas station where he bought his fuel. Turned out it was his 5 year old son filling Daddy's gas tank up with the water hose. Check that oil again. Ask some of the parts houses around the area if they know someplace that will analyze the oil and tell you what the contaminate is. This is a new one on me. Let me know what you find at [email protected] , please.

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Steve

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