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What can be done to improve the forks so they are not so stiff for fire roading and light off roading.

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First, use the owners manual and check the setting of the compression damping. Set the compression damping a bit lighter and try it out. This will make the forks feel less stiff, but the fork springs could still be too stiff for your weight. Make sure the rear air spring has enough air in it too, this can adversely effect handling.

Next step, Work with a reputable off-road suspension shop to set up the bike for your weight and riding abilities. There is not much you can do with the rear air spring/shock, but I found that it worked quite well.

A couple of good suspension tuning shops are Enduro Engineering, Factory Connection. etc. Most of the good shops will require that you remove the forks and send them in for re-spring or re-valve work.

Ask at your local dealer that sells a lot of motorcross type bikes about good suspension shops in your area.

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