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TO REPLACE THE FRONT FORK OIL ....DO YOU DRAIN IT FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE FORK....OR DO YOU NEED TO TAKE THE FORK APART?

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You can get it out by removing the bolt(valve) in the bottom of the fork. However, this will not get it all out, so you won't know exactly how much you're putting in. Too little and it'll bottom out real easy. Too much and it'll be very stiff.

Of course, the best way is to totally disassemble and inspect the forks and set the oil amount by measuring the oil level in the fork. But, if you simply want to drain it out and replace it, catch all you drain out and put exactly that amount of new oil back in. This should get you very close, unless your forks have been leaking, then your level will be a little low.


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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 17, 2009

SOURCE: front fork leaking oil from bottom of the seal.

change the oil seals and oil in the fork,and avoid wheelies on the bike and off road biking 

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kwd27

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  • Posted on Dec 30, 2008

SOURCE: front fork leaking oil from bottom of the seal.

This is one of the few things that I recommend you take to a shop - you need some very special tools and techniques to fix this problem. Sorry,
Kevin

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I have no diagrams for you. MAke your own as you take it apart etc and take lots of cell phone pictures if you need help remembering how to put things back together.

Table 1-6. Type E Fork Oil Amounts



MODEL OZ CC IN. MM



FXDXT 11.5 341 6.10 154.9



FXDWG 12.0 356 7.28 184.9



FXDL 10.7 316 7.20 182.9



FXD 10.6 314 6.69 169.9




Changing fork oil is a simple mater for some models and requires fork disassembly for others. Here is the procedure for all 2001 DYNA models:

2001 DYNA FRONT FORK OIL 1.18


REPLACING FORK OIL Replace front fork oil at every 20,000 mile (32,000 km) service interval and/or prior to storage.


ALL BUT FXDX & FXDXT models


Raise and support the motorcycle so the front end is off the floor and the forks are fully extended, on FXDL models, remove the center plug from each fork cap, on all other models, remove the fork tube caps, remove the drain screws from the bottom of each fork and drain the fork oil, replace the drain screws and washers and tighten the screws

to 13-17 in-lbs (1.5-2.0 Nm) THEN see Table 1-6. and fill the fork with Harley-Davidson TYPE E FORK OIL (Part No. HD-99884-80) as set out in the Table. THEN if apart assemble the forks as follows:


a. FXD, FXDXT, FXDWG models: install both fork tube caps and tighten them to 11-22 ft-lbs (14.9-29.8 Nm).

b. FXDL models: install center plugs and tighten until secure.


Fork oil amounts can be measured two ways: use the oz./cc measurement if fork is left in frame; use the in./mm measurement if the fork is disassembled in which case the oil level is measured from the top of the fork tube with the spring removed and the fork fully compressed.


Table 1-6. Type E Fork Oil Amounts for 2001 DYNA


MODEL OZ CC IN. MM

FXDXT 11.5 341 6.10 154.9

FXDWG 12.0 356 7.28 182.9

FXD 10.6 314 6.69 169.9


PART NO. SPECIALTY TOOL

HD-41177 Fork tube holder

HD-41549A Fork spring compression tool

HD-41551 Spring plate tool

HD-36583 Fork seal installer

HD-59000A Pro-level oil gauge



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REMOVAL

Raise and support the motorcycle so the front end is off the floor and the forks are fully extended, remove both front brake calipers and the front wheel, remove the front fender, remove the front fairing, remove the headlamp bracket and attach the headlamp to the frame using a rubber bungee strap, loosen the upper and lower triple clamp pinch bolts and pull the fork sides from the brackets.


DISASSEMBLY

Remove the stopper ring, remove the spring preload adjuster but DO NOT unthread the rebound adjuster from the damper rod because incorrect assembly could result in reduced adjustment range. THEN unthread the fork cap from the fork tube and allow the fork leg to drop, exposing the spring, THEN get a FORK SPRING COMPRESSION TOOL (Part No. HD-41549A) on the spring collar, turn the screws in to engage the holes in collar, compress the spring until the SPRING PLATE TOOL (Part No. HD-

41551) can be positioned between the spacer and the spring collar, THEN hold the fork bolt and compression adjuster, remove the fork bolt from the compression adjuster, remove the spring adjuster plate from the fork bolt, remove spacer, spring collar and spring, pour out the fork oil by pumping the fork leg and rod 8-10 times or until rod the moves freely. THEN position fork slider in vise using a FORK TUBE HOLDER such as (Part No. HD-41177) to avoid damage. THEN remove the socket head bolt, remove the damper from the fork tube, remove the cover from the slider, remove seal and stopper ring, pull the fork tube out of the slider, remove the oil seal, spacer and guide bushing from the fork tube.


CLEANING AND INSPECTION

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