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How do you put timing chain back on and time cams after head gasket change

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Most motorcycle cam gears have a mark on one tooth, often just a punch mark, sometimes an "o". Usually this mark should be "straight up" in line with the cylinder when the engine is at top dead center on the compression stroke. Double-check your service manual to be sure for a particular bike.

So here's how you set it. Remove the flywheel cover and rotate the engine so that the piston is at top dead center. There should be a "TDC" or "T" mark on the flywheel, and some sort of corresponding mark or pointer on the engine case to line this up with. To make sure, remove the spark plug and verify with a flashlight that the piston is as high as it can be when the marks are lined up.

Now rotate the cam gear until the punch or "o" mark is at the very top of the engine (in line with the cylinder, if the cylinder is slanted). At this point, neither the intake nor the exhaust valves should be open.

Now connect the cam chain while both the crankshaft and the cam gear are in these reference positions, and you are done!

best regards,

Marty

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