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Kyle martin Posted on Oct 08, 2016

I have 93 low rider, there is no brightness difference when brakes are applied. I can hear the relay pulling in when I hit the brakes. new lamp is a two filament and right voltage (1157). Any thoughts

I have a constant 12 volts on the studs, but my switches aren't stuck or the relay would always be in. I can't really meter and hit the switches but 12 volts is 12 volts.

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SOURCE: 1990 Volvo DL Sedan Brake Lites Work but Also Come on With Running Lites

Is there a switch on the left side of the dash that has a red lens and a wavy line across it? If so, you have a rear fog light switch and it has been activated, causing your brake lights to come on each time you turn your headlights on. Flip the switch and the rear lights should display only the parking lights with the headlights on.

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mike loshbough

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  • Posted on Jan 25, 2009

SOURCE: Right side headlight (low beam) dead

clearly volts without amps. pinch wire bad socket or multifunction switch under cover on steering column.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 06, 2009

SOURCE: 02 escalade, vehical stalls at low idle

if it has over 40,000 miles on it change the drive belt and have the alternator tested and also make sure all of the vaccum lines are on and in place

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 16, 2009

SOURCE: Mower clutch won't engage

Under the hood...there is a small relay switch that is taped to the fuse. The relay needs to be replaced, it is bad

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 10, 2010

SOURCE: back signal lights and brake lights not working.

usually a fuse / loss of ground

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Did you have a qualified repair shop check for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes ?
DTC B3903 Stop Lamp Relay Circuit
The electronic brake control module (EBCM) supplies voltage to the BASS relay coil side voltage supply circuit when the stop lamps are active. The coil side control circuit of the BASS relay is permanently grounded at G402.

DTC C0278 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Not Calibrated
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DTC C0282 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit Range/Performance
DTC C0283 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit Low
DTC C0284 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit High
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2008 Pontiac solstice- brake lights stay on. Press brake pedal and release, lights go off for about 3 seconds, then come back on.

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The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog voltage signal that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. The body control module (BCM) provides a low reference signal and a 5-volt reference voltage to the brake pedal position sensor. When the variable signal reaches a voltage threshold indicating the brakes have been applied, the BCM will apply battery positive voltage to the stop lamps, center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL), transmission control module (TCM), and engine control module (ECM). Ground for the right rear stop lamp and CHMSL is applied at G402. Ground for the left rear stop lamp is applied at G400. The stop lamps on this vehicle will not illuminate unless the ignition is in the accessory, run, or crank positions. When the ignition is in the OFF position the stop lamps will not illuminate when the brake pedal is applied.

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DTC C0277 07 : Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit Voltage Above Threshold
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DTC C0278 00: Brake Pedal Position Sensor Not Calibrated
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DTC B3445 00: Stop Lamp Circuit
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  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  3. With a scan tool, observe the Brake Pedal Position Sensor parameter in the data list for the body control module (BCM).
  4. Apply and release the brake pedal.
Does the scan tool display a change in the voltage?

DTC B3903 Stop Lamp Relay Circuit DTC C0277 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit
DTC C0278
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?
Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle

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  1. Install a scan tool.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Does the scan tool display DTC C0278 00?
Go to Step 3
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

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Recalibrate the brake position sensor.

Circuit Description
DTC C0870
The body control module (BCM) applies a ground through the brake sensor reference low circuit to the brake pedal position (BPP) sensor. The BCM supplies a 5-volt reference through the brake sensor reference voltage circuit to the brake position sensor. When the brake pedal is being applied, the BPP sensor then sends a variable voltage signal through the brake sensor signal circuit to the BCM.
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Can you help me determine what is going on with my car?

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Did you ever spill a drink down the right side of your console or have a windshield leak ! The BCM is located on the right side of the shift console ?
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Where is the stop lamp or brake lamp fuse and panel for a 2007 cadillac cts?

Kevin , this is a very complex way of stoplamp control , I will post GM service Description and Operation of how they work an let you deside if you want to tackle this ! Do the center high mount brake lights work ?
The brake pedal position sensor is a resistive device used to sense the action of the driver's application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog signal that will increase as the brake pedal is pressed.
The brake pedal position sensor receives both a 5-volt reference voltage and a low reference signal from the electronic brake control module (EBCM). When the brake pedal is pressed, a variable signal is applied from the brake pedal position sensor to the EBCM through the brake sensor signal circuit. The fuse block left rear supplies battery positive voltage to the bass relay switch through the BASS fuse. One side of the bass relay coil is permanently grounded at G402. The EBCM supplies voltage to the bass relay coil upon receiving the signal from the brake pedal position sensor. The switch contacts of the bas relay close and battery positive voltage is applied through the bas relay switch to the center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL), and to the turn signal/hazard flasher module through the stop lamp switch signal circuit. The ground for the CHMSL is applied from G402. The turn signal/hazard flasher module then supplies voltage to the left and right stop lamps in the tail lamp assemblies that have ground at G401 and G402. For export vehicles the stop lamps receive battery positive voltage directly from the bass relay.

There could be a code stored in the EBCM - electronic brake control module - DTC B3903 Stop Lamp Relay Circuit
DTC C0278 Brake Pedal Position Sensor Not Calibrated
there are several other codes that pertane to the brake lights . you could try Replaceing the bas relay !
Fuse Block - Left Rear
In the passenger compartment, under the left side of the rear seat at carpet.
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I can hear the front brake pad rubbing the disc when the brake isnt being squeezed. I bought my dyna low rider used with 5000 miles. Its an 05. Just wondering if this is normal or is it time for a new...

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