Motor cranks but no spark to plugs
SOURCE: MC cranks, but wont start.
You have done good - This is a shot in the dark but if the bike thinks the bike is in gear with the kickstand doen (kickstand relay) the bike will not start - look for a voltage from the kickstand relay (at the kickstand)
SOURCE: I need a wiring diagram for a electronic ignition module.
If I understand correctly, Your bike has points in it now and you want to go to electronic ignition. If that's what you want to do, I would suggest that you go with one of the aftermarket ignition units. They're more versatile, costs less, and easier to install.
There are two types available. Your bike has a mechanical timing advance unit behind the points breaker plate. One type of electronic unit eliminates this mechanical part and makes the system truly maintenance free while the other type retains the mechanical advance unit and cost less. A prime example is Crane Cam's HI-1 unit that retains the mechanical advance and their HI-4 unit that eliminates it. Most bikes made after 1984 do not have the mechanical advance units. Since your bike does not have any of the original components left on it, I would suggest that you get one of the units that goes in the "nose cone" of the engine. It simply replaces the everything in there if you get the unit that does not use the mechanical advance. The Mechanical advance units are prone to wear and since no one ever services them, I'd suggest getting rid of it. You'll have to purchase a "timing cup" from Harley, costs about $20, a lot less than $100 bucks for needle bearing mechanical advance unit. Get the shorter screw that goes with it as well.
All you have to have with either unit is a "hot" wire going to the coil. The coil must have a primary resistance of somewhere around 3-4 ohms where a points type coil has a primary resistance of 4-6 ohms. To determine the resistance of your coil use a Digital Volt Ohm Meter and measure the resistance between the two small terminals on the coil. To wire the ignition units is usually just a two or three wire hookup that is very simple. They all come with wiring instructions.
Now, the next thing is whether you wish to stick with "dual fire" ignition or go to "single fire" ignition. Dual fire is the system that almost all Harley's come equipped with from the factory. In this type of system, both spark plugs fire when the pistons are top dead center. Since one piston is on the exhaust stroke, that spark is of no consequence and therefore is considered a 'wasted spark". In a "single fire" system, the spark plugs fire independently when each piston comes to TDC on the compression stroke. It requires either two coils or a "two in one" type coil. This added coil increases the cost of the system and to be honest with you, I cannot tell a difference between the two systems. With that in mind, I opt to go with the less expensive and simplier "dual fire" system.
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Ok, this will get you started. Installing an electronic ignition system in an older Harley is easy to do. The difficult part is deciding which one to go with. Once you do that, no problem. If you have anymore questions, drop me a line at [email protected] .
To see how to hook up one of the units, go to their website and look for a "Technical" page. Go to that page and look for "installation Instructions". Print them out and it'll tell you everything you need to know. If not, I've got some different types of systems installation instructions that I can scan and send to you.
Good Luck
Steve
SOURCE: 1977 suzuki a50p no spark
Try reinstalling the points . It is real easy to have them short. Some times it takes two or three tries to get points in correctly (so they don't ground out).
SOURCE: i have a 02 dyna
It can also be faulty spark plugs or worn out spark plugs causing this.Also it can be low voltage battery.causing this.Disconnect the battery for 15 minutes then reconnect and check if its helping to reset the no start problem.Also check battery voltage.It should be 12 volts on meter.
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How to test the coils on Harley Davidson Dyna 2002:--
The engine should be cool.
There are two large coil terminals and two small terminals.Measure small terminals with meter set set on "RX1" and measure large terminals with meter set on "RX1000"
First remove the two wiring connection on the spark plug.Just disconnect it.Then remove the small connections on the coil.This connections are screw tight.So remove the screws.
Now with the meter measure the ohm reading.The reading between the two small connections of coil terminals.The reading should be between 2.6 to 3.0 ohms.----------- Now measure the large terminals.The reading should be between 10000 to 12500.If the reading is not between this then coils are faulty and coil pack needs to be replaced.
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How to test crank sensor on Harley Davidson Dyna 2002:--
The crank position sensor is located in front of the oil filter on the left side of the engine in front.
Put an oscilloscope on the sensor leads and spin the engine. You should see a pulse coming from the sensor.The CKP sensor has a B+ power supply, a ground, and a signal circuit.As the crankshaft rotates, the wheel teeth interrupt a magnetic field produced by a magnet within the sensor. The sensor's internal circuitry detects this and produces a signal which the ECM reads. The ECM uses this signal to accurately measure crankshaft velocity which is a variable used in order to detect misfire, spark and, fueling.--------------- Find the wire that goes to the B+ Measure from this wire to ground for the DC supply voltage. Measurement should be taken on the sensor side of the connector. Ground connection as well.On Dyna 2002 this wire is marked BK for Black. Do this test at rest and with the engine spinning. A loose connection could break as the motor shakes.If you have voltage present with the key on and with the engine spinning move the positive meter lead to the Signal wire. This is marked R for Red on 2002 Dyna. With the engine spinning you should see a voltage signal on that wire. You should measure the signal at the sensor connector and the ecm to verify it is reaching the brain.-------- Also with meter you should get this reading on crank position sensor:--- constant 5vac with the plugs out and 3.2vac with the plugs in.If this is the reading you get then its proper crank shaft position sensor.But if you get contact 5 vac with or without plugs in then its faulty crank sensor.
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For ignition module testing check for the 12 volts on main ignition live wires.If its 12 volts when key is turn on and no volt when its turned off.Then its proper voltage and good ignition module.But if its 12 volts in both on and off then its faulty module causing this problem.
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This should help.Thanks.Helpmech.
SOURCE: bike ran fine all day,
you can take the ignition modual to a parts store and they can test it but it might be the rectifier that went bad
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