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Bike not kick starting

Hi there,my started a few times but not kicking now just changed the fuel to 50to1 and my mate thinks i am flooding it

  • tombones May 11, 2010

    50 to 1 you are risking a seized piston and lots of wear on the crank bearings. 32 / 1 is the standard. Use 2 stroke engine oil not motor oil. Are you getting spark?

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I think your mate is right try pushing the bike to get it going then once fired up & cleared out should be fine. Put choke on full kick fully 2x then take choke off completely, kick again.

Steve

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