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Front brakes tried all different methods of bleeding...can build up pressure but as soon as I move the bike all pressure disappears

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Try bleeding the master cylinder first. Pump the brakes up,and hold lever in while loosening banjo bolt at the master cylinder. Loosen it slowly untill the fluid "rushes " out.The lever will go down,and just holdit in while tightening the banjo bolt. Be sure to use a towel or something over the tank/fairings,so it doesnt mess up the paint. Repeat this about 2 times,THEN bleed the caliper farthest from the master cylinder,then the other. This should fix your problem. If it still doesnt hold pressure,then most likely you have a leak in the master cylinder,or one or both of the calipers. Good Luck!

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 07, 2009

SOURCE: Problem with the valve/front brakes on 2001 Kawasaki 300

sounds like that the piston o-rings are warn out. replace them on the master cylinder and get your self a 12 inch tube and a small glass jar loosen the bleeder valve put the tube on the bleeder valve and the other end in the jar put brake fluid in the jar and put it in the reservoir don't let ether run out and keep moving the brake lever it will get the air out of the lines quicker, repeat this for the other side

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 04, 2010

SOURCE: I replaced the rear brake

HI FIRST OFF CLAMP THE BRAKE HOSE CLOSE TO THE MASTER CILINDER AS YOU CAN IF YOU HAVE RUBBER BRAKE LINES, YOU CANT DO THIS IF YOU HAVE BRAIDED OR SIM HOSES.
WITH THE CLAMP ON YOU SHOULD HAVE A GOOD SOLID PEDAL, IF THIS IS THE CASE,, UNDO THE BLEED NIPPLE ON THE REAR CALIPER, USE A PIPE TO CATCH THE FLUID, WHILE PUSHING DOWN ON THE PEDAL, GENTLY RELEASE THE PRESURE OF THE CLAMP, NOT ALL THE WAY THIS WILL ALOW YOU TO FORCE THE FLUID PAST THE CLAMP, BEFORE YOU ALOW THE PEDAL TO RETURN RE APPLY THE PRESURE ON THE CLAMP, REPEAT THIS SEVERAL TIMES TILL THE FLUID STARTS CUMING OUT OF THE NIPPLE, THEN TIGHTEN THE NIPPLE REMOVE THE CLAMP AND PROCEED TO BLEED IN THE NORMAL WAY TO REMOVE ANY FURTHER AIR WHICH MAY BE IN THE SYSTEM,

chris

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  • Posted on Jan 05, 2011

SOURCE: i can bleed the front

It sounds like you have an air lock in the system .
I would make sure to use the right brake fluid , drain the system and bleed the brakes again and making sure that no air is locked in the system

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