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Posted on Aug 02, 2012

Testing voltage regulator

Battery voltage staying at 12 .63 volts when bike is running, battery is new and test of stator shows 30 plus volts, how do you test the voltage regulator

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ENGINE OFF,UNPLUG the regulator, test continuity from each conductor to ground on the stator, if you have continuity STATOR IS SHORTED... if you test voltage OUTPUT at the stator, it should be around ten volts AC! NOT DC! per thousand RPM... THEN use a 12 volt test lite from regulator leads to ground, if ANY light happens at either lead, BAD regulator

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 16, 2011

SOURCE: bought a new battery rode

To check the output of the charging system, first, you must start with a fully charged battery. Then connect your DVOM (Digital Volt Ohm Meter) across the battery. Red meter lead to the positive post and the black meter lead to the negative post of the battery. Put the meter's function selection switch in DC VOLTS, 25 VOLTS OR GREATER scale. Start the engine and bring it to a high idle. Your meter should read between 14.5 to 15.0 volts.

If not, find where the regulator plugs into the alternator. A Big Twin is in the front of the engine and the Sportster is behind rear cylinder. In the stator side of the plug, there are two metal contacts. This is where you're going to check the voltage output of your stator. Put the meter's function switch in AC VOLTS, 50 VOLT OR GREATER scale. Start the engine and insert either meter lead into one metal contact and the other lead into the other contact. Do not allow the leads to touch each other or the engine case. Bring the engine to a high idle. If you're working on a Big Twin, you should be reading at least 30 volts, a Sportster should read about 25 volts. If you don't read this much, your stator is bad, If you do read this much, it's probably the regulator. But, since you said that you've changed the regulator at least once, I'd guess maybe another problem. Make sure you regulator is grounded to the frame. I always put one of those star type lock washers between the regulator and the frame on both mounting bolts. The regulator must be grounded.

Good Luck
Steve

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Sudeep Chatterjee

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  • Posted on May 26, 2009

SOURCE: battery wont charge more than 12.25 at 2000 rpm

Check the rectifier, its responsible for charging the battery when running, the fuse too, however the rectifier if it can not be repaired, better to buy a new one......................sodeep

ROB

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  • Posted on Jul 18, 2009

SOURCE: I think I have a bad stator on my 2002Harley Dyna

too many variables !
Firstly check battery under load ! any battery place or auto electrician can so it usually free!
do this before replacing any thing else!
make sure all connections are clean & tight
if battery is ok get them to check the charge rate on bike! its a simple test or you can do it with a volt meter they are only cheap to buy!

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 17, 2009

SOURCE: 2000fatboy battery charging system

I suggest purchasing a factory service manual if you plan to do your own repairs. I will have the information you are looking for and complete schematics as well. It will pay for itself on the first repair

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 03, 2010

SOURCE: why is my 2006 street bob not charging

If the regulator was replaced and wasn't properly grounded it will not charge.

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This is what I would suggest before just changing the stator out. Hope this helps.Okay first step is to check voltage on battery.Most times it is a low voltage battery and easiest to fix. Checking the charging system to see if the voltage regulator or stator is bad read this...

Step 1. Normally, you'd first load test the battery,
Start the engine and measure DC Volts across the battery terminals, the regulator should be putting out 14.3 - 14.7 vdc at 3600 rpm and 75 degrees F.


Step 2. To check the regulator unplug it from the stator. Take a test light and clip it to the negative terminal of the battery and then touch first one pin and then the other on the plug that goes to the regulator. If you get even the slightest amount of light from the test light the regulator is toast.

To do this with a meter which is more accurate: black lead to battery ground, red lead to each pin on the plug, start with the voltage scale higher than 12vdc and move voltage scale down in steps for each pin. Any voltage is a bad regulator.
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Step 3. On the other part of the disconnected regulator plug. Set the multimeter for Ohms x1 scale and measure for resistance across the pins of the stator. You should read something around 0.1 to 0.2 ohms for the TC88 32 amp system.


Step 4. Then check for continuity between each pin on the plug and frame/engine ground. The meter needle should not move (infinite resistance)(digitals will show infinite resistance) if the meter needle does move (indicating continuity)(digitals will show some resistance), recheck very carefully. If the meter still shows continuity to ground the stator is shorted (bad).


Step 5. Set the meter to read A/C volts higher than 30 volts (the scale setting for voltage should always be higher than the highest voltage you expect or you may fry the meter). Start the bike, and measure from one pin to the other on the plug (DO NOT cross the multimeter probes! - touch them to each other). You should read roughly 16-20 vac per 1,000 rpm.


Step 6. If the battery was good under load test, if the stator is NOT shorted to ground, and the stator is putting out A/C voltage, then the regulator is bad (most likely even if if passed step 2).


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32 amp system produces about 16-20 vac per 1,000 rpm, stator resistance is about 0.1 to 0.2 ohms.
45 amp system produces about 19-26 vac per 1,000 rpm, stator resistance is about 0.1 to 0.2 ohms.
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Step 1. First things first, load test the battery. Most places like Auto Zone will do it for free. Even if it measures over 12.5 vdc it can still be bad under a load. Battery is typically rated at 19 amp hours and 270 Cold Cranking Amps (CCA).

Start the engine and measure DC Volts across the battery terminals, the regulator should be putting out 14.3 - 14.7 vdc at 3600 rpm and 75 degrees F.


Step 2. To check the regulator unplug it from the stator. Take a test light and clip it to the negative terminal of the battery and then touch first one pin and then the other on the plug that goes to the regulator. If you get even the slightest amount of light from the test light the regulator is toast.

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