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86 harley oil leaks out carb when you start it

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Your crankcase vents into the carb air filter. This was required by the EPA. All crankcase vented pressure has to be cycled through the engine. So, If you'll look behind your air filter to the rear of the bike, you should see a pipe coming from just behind the oil pump up to the backside of the air filter. The air pressure exhausted from the crankcase has an oil mist in it. There are baffles in the pipe but sometimes during servicing, these baffles get left out. Still, even with the baffles, there is some oil mist that makes it's way to the air filter. This oil builds up over time and causes a drip out of the air filter. Regular cleaning of the air filter assembly reduces this.

If you're getting more than the usual amount of oil, your engine could be "oil sumping". This is where the oil in the oil tank seeps past the check ball valve in the oil pump and builds up in the bottom end of the engine. When you start the engine, the oil pump cannot pump it back to the tank fast enough and it's blown out the crankcase vent tube right into your air filter. You can "reseat" the check ball and may be able to get it to stop doing this.

Or, you could remove the crankcase vent tube going up to the air filter. Put a piece of tubing about six inches long on the nipple coming out of the engine case and plug the hole in the backside of the air filter backing plate. Then, the oil will directed onto the ground instead of into your air filter.

Good Luck
Steve

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