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Posted on Aug 06, 2011

Starter will turn or make a sound but does not engage. Motor does not even attempt to start. Battery is good, i replaced the starter, relay coil is good, s.c.c.r. is good, which only leaves the ignitor or ignition switch, maybe? Please, help!!!

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 24, 2009

SOURCE: starter will not engage-soleniod just clicks-

I had this problem last year. I was told by a reputable Yamaha service technician that I could "jump" the leads on the solenoid to unstick it. It worked. However, in retrospect, I wish I would have just replaced the solenoid, given that it is a relatively cheap component (~$40 new). Since then, I had the sticking and clicking problem again this past March right at the beginning of the season, and during my attempt to repeat the success, I shorted out the bike because I got careless about what my disconnected wires touched on the bike. Shame on me. So I'd recommend replacing the solenoid.

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John Wolfe

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  • Posted on Oct 02, 2009

SOURCE: 91 yamaha breeze,wont turn over

Check fuses. Check voltage. Could be a burned, or just broken fuse. Could be a dead battery. Could be as simple as poor battery connections. If not, perhaps the following will help:

A starter can be tested in a very simple way, by applying 12vdc to the power input, and grounding the case. If it spins, then it's on to step 2, checking connections.

Starters are much too simple to be more complicated than that, but the electrical system can be. Check the circuit between the relay and the starter. Is is a direct wire with no breaks? If so, check the voltage at the power output and input of the relay. If it is good, check the power input and grounding of the starter.

Most new bikes have a clutch switch, and it may interrupt the 12vdc to the starter, without affecting the relay. Same thing goes for the nuetral switch.

Try starting in nuetral, with the clutch pulled. Check the relay for conections that you may have taken off, and not replaced. Same thing for the starter.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 22, 2010

SOURCE: replaced starter relay and stater in yamaha 1100 2001 v star

Charge battery to full, start in neutral, still clicks? Bad ground, or bad connection. Jump starter solenoid with screwdriver,etc. if motor turns over the relay is bad. Chaz Moto DC

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 29, 2010

SOURCE: 1985 Xj700 Maxim will not start, just a single

HI, LETS REMEMBER THE STARTER RELAY IS ONLY A MAGNETIC SWITCH, WHICH WHEN THE STARTER SWITCH IS PRESSED IT OPENS THE CIRCUIT AND ALOWS 12V DC TO COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT TO THE STARTER MOTOR, IF YOU BRIDGE THE 2 THICK WIRES AT THE STARTER RELAY WITH THE IGNITION SWITCHED ON, 1 COMES FROM THE BATERY, AND THE OTHER GOES TO THE STARTER MOTOR, AND YOU HAVE SUFICIANT POWER IN YOUR BATTERY THE ENGINE WILL TURN OVER AND START, THUS ELIMINATING THE RELAY, IF THE STARTER DOES NOT TURN OVER THE ENGINE WHEN YOU DO THIS IT IS LIKELY THE STARTER MOTOR ITSELF IS NOT WORKING CORRECTLY, YOU COULD ALWAYS REMOVE THE WIRE FROM THE RELAY AND PUT IT MOMENTARILY DIRECT TO THE POS SIDE OF THE BATTERY, INSTEAD OF BRIDGING AT THE RELAY, REMEMBER THAT IF THE BIKE RUNS WHEN YOU JUMP START IT, THEN THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE STARTING SIDE , AND NOT THE IGNITION SIDE AS THE IGNITOR IS CONECTED TO THE IGNITION SIDE REPLACING THIS WOULD BE A WASTE OF FUNDS. THESE MACHINES ALSO HAD PROBLEMS EARLY ON WITH STARTER MOTORS & THE STARTER CLUTCH, WHICH IS A ONE WAY CLUTCH LOCATED IN THE LH ENGINE COVER ALONG WITH THE AC GENERATOR

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