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Anonymous Posted on Jun 09, 2011

Hi, I'm going to attempt to do my first transmission oil change on my 1998 grand caravan AWD 3.8 ltr, 160,000 miles. I don't think there is anything wrong with my tranny yet but doing it as a maintanence precaution. I've been doing my research on the internet and random people but get alot of conflicting advice. First of all, I have bought a felpro filter and gasket kit. The guy at the auto parts shop told me not to use any RTV sealant on the filter. He said just to press the filter snuggly around the tranny pan holes and then screw the bolts through the gasket because the holes in the gasket are smaller then the bolts. Is this good advice? Should I get the RTV sealant and add the 1/8 inch of bead to both sides of gasket? or just one one side? Also, Should I do a complete tranny oil change or just a partial? I just get scared of damaging the tranny while flushing the system. If I did choose to drain the system, how can I be sure to dissconnect the right hose for the old fluid to be pumped from? And how can I be sure not to run the tranny dry? Another thing I'm concerned about is the TCM firmware. I've read that I may have to flash the firmware at a dealership because the computer is used to the old fluid or something??? Another quick question, I seen at Walmart they had ATF +4 which I only need ATF+3 but they had a gallon of synthetic tranny fluid for cheaper then the ATF +4. Would the synthetic fluid be superior to the ATF+4?

  • Anonymous Jun 09, 2011

    It didn't post my messages with the breaks in that huge paragraph... I hope my tranny oil change goes smoother then that...

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You just remove the pan clean it & reinstall

Forget the extra in the torque converter

If you got all of it out on a veh that old it would
probable start slipping

Because of its age just use regular fluid not
synthetic

ATF + 3 & +4 are the same

The +4 is for newer vehicles & supercedes
the other.

If you have a gasket it goes on dry
No gasket RTV on pan & let sit overnight
NO RTV with synthetic,it will leak

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  • Anonymous Jun 09, 2011

    No way for the powertrain module to know
    you changed the fluid
    Shouldn't need to worry about drive cycles
    but the clutch packs may react different for
    awhile as the friction coeficent will be different

    If you use regular Dex/Merc v.s. +4 add black lubgard

  • Anonymous Jun 09, 2011

    Thanks alot pczapp:)

    That's some great info. I'm sticking with ATF+4. Why would the tranny start slipping if I flushed the whole system vs. just changing pan oil??? I'm just gonna go ahead and change the pan oil out tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.

    Thanks again

  • Anonymous Jun 09, 2011

    I made a living in the trans repair business for a few
    years. 70% of my work was caravans & taurus

    The caravan is a terrible transaxle
    When you don't change fluid every 30,000 miles
    on all vehicles your going to not make 100,000 miles
    That is most of the reason for clutch waer from heat
    That is the job of the fluid to remove heat.
    As I said new fluid on a trans with more than 60,000
    miles will cause slippage very easily. So I suggest
    just drop the pan & be happy with about a 4 qt replacement
    Then every year in May,BEFORE it gets hot do it again
    Also if you use +4 use the red lubguard,only chemical
    I ever found that does anything. Some asian transaxles
    won't shift without it.

  • Anonymous Jun 11, 2011

    I think I'm in trouble pczapp...

    WHen I went to instal the clean pan back onto the tranny case, three of the bolts had been stripped from a previous job and they would not screw in tight. The good thing is that the 3 stripped bolts arn't next to each other so I'm hoping the 2 bolts next to each of the stripped bolts can hold the pan tight enough to prevent a leak. Although, 2 of the 3 stripped bolts are on a corner.

    I filled up the pan with 4 qts of atf+4 and watched for leaks and there were no leaks while I let the engine idle for 2 minutes. If there is a leak, I'll just get another filter and RTV sealant and hopefully that will stop it.

  • Anonymous Jun 11, 2011

    Should have told you to always use Anti-Seize on bolts
    with anything especially aluminium
    Drill & Tap them to the next metric size
    Why would you need another filter?

  • Anonymous Jun 11, 2011

    You should be getting the gaskets at the trans warehouse
    or from a trans shop You don't want the cork things from the
    auto parts store

  • Anonymous Jun 22, 2011

    It seems the three striped bolts on the tranny pan didn't result in a leak. With the felpro filter and no sealant and even three striped bolts, still no leak, not even a drop, after 1 week.

    Thanks again for the help

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