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Anonymous Posted on Aug 21, 2008

Electrical System Malfunction

Recently, the cars electrical system shut down. The central locking system, the windows, seat adjustments, interior lights and the radio quit operating. The A/C, driving lights & ignition remained operative.

Removing the electrical modules in the engine compartment & re-seating them reset the system. Then the same issue recurred. Re-seating the modules did not resolve this the second time. Only when the modules under the rear seat were removed and re-installed did the systems start again.

Which module is the culprit?

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  • Anonymous Aug 21, 2008

    Recently, the cars electrical system shut down. The central locking system, the windows, seat adjustments, interior lights and the radio quit operating. The A/C, driving lights & ignition remained operative.

    Removing the electrical modules in the engine compartment & re-seating them reset the system. Then the same issue recurred. Re-seating the modules did not resolve this the second time. Only when the modules under the rear seat were removed along with the ones in the engine compartment and the rear seat modules re-installed did the systems start again.

    The systems operated for a short period of time then went out again.

    I had opened the modules, but none of the traces appeared burned and none of the components were charred.

    One module (under the rear seat) had relays, but why would some malfunction and others not in the same module? Why would so many go at one time? Is it really the relay module, or is another module the culprit?

  • Anonymous Aug 24, 2008

    Recently, the '91 BMW 525i electrical system shut down. The central locking system, the windows, seat adjustments, interior lights and the radio quit operating. The A/C, driving lights & ignition remained operative.

    Removing the electrical modules in the engine compartment & re-seating them reset the system. Then the same issue recurred. Re-seating the modules did not resolve this the second time. Only when the modules under the rear seat were removed along with the ones in the engine compartment and the rear seat modules re-installed did the systems start again.

    The systems operated for a short period of time then went out again.

    I had opened the modules, but none of the traces appeared burned and none of the components were charred.

    One module (under the rear seat) had relays, but why would some malfunction and others not in the same module? Why would so many go at one time? Is it really the relay module, or is another module the culprit?

  • Anonymous Aug 24, 2008

    My '91 BMW 525i electrical system shut down. The central locking system, the windows, seat adjustments, interior lights and the radio quit operating. The A/C, driving lights & ignition remained operative.

    Removing the electrical modules in the engine compartment & re-seating them reset the system. Then the same issue recurred. Re-seating the modules did not resolve this the second time. Only when the modules under the rear seat were removed along with the ones in the engine compartment and the rear seat modules re-installed did the systems start again.

    The systems operated for a short period of time then went out again.

    I had opened the modules, but none of the traces appeared burned and none of the components were charred.

    One module (under the rear seat) had relays, but why would some malfunction and others not in the same module? Why would so many go at one time? Is it really the relay module, or is another module the culprit?

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Have experienced a similar problem on my 1990 525i with 200,000 miles.

Mine was caused by the battery having an internal short in one cell. Voltage would drop to 10V and electronics did weird things like locks not working or randomly locking and unlocking.

Replaced battery and problem was cured.

If the problems occur when engine is running, check alternator. It can produce electrical noise that can cause odd electrical problems. Take it out (not too difficult on a BMW) and have it tested at an automotive electrical shop (not a parts house).

Lastly, if there are engine stumbling or hesitation issues, check the engine to frame grounding strap. Its on the passenger side in the engine compartment between the frame rail below the battery and the front motor mount. Mine coroded through and was causing a bad ground connection between engine and body. Check with an ohm meter from engine to body. Should be less than 2 ohms normally.

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Dear Sir/madam,

First thing, check battery, alternater may not have been charging and it simply ran out of power. Depending on make of car, there are either 3-4 main fuses 3/8" X 5/8" that are either on the positive cable at the battery or in the fuse block on the drivers side inner fender. One of these may be blown. You may have fuseable links instead. This is a loop of wire that does the same thing as the fuses. Should be one of the two places. You can feel if these are burned thru. If this is the problem, what caused it must be found. Alternater likely susspect, but could be anything.

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Electrical faults in BMW's are too complicated.
If you try and fix it yourself, you may cause more complications to your car.

I would recommend you send it to a shop that are familiar with BMW's to get it fixed.

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Take it to shop for a diagnose

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This sounds like a relay issue and there are so many relays that a repair shop would need to run a diagnostic test. Sounds like a anti theft/security malfunction.

  • Anonymous Aug 24, 2008

    okay how about , checking the "pcm" relay, or the "ign" relay.
    perhaps that would help, but you really need to take it in.


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