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Anonymous Posted on May 27, 2011

If my car uses a 2-wire oxygen sensor can I use a 4-wire oxygen sensor?

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Anonymous

No & why would you

Use the internet to educate yourself

You use what the car was designed for,
you know that.

Four wire has 2 that are for the heater,
1 ground & 1 output

How would you put the 2 harness connectors
together

I don't think you thought that question out too well

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Which Oxygen Sensor Is It?

There are many inquiries online about which oxygen sensor to change. Oxygen sensor failure codes are very common on a lot of vehicles. With all of today's vehicles having at least two oxygen sensors and many having three or four of them, it can be a little confusing as to which one is causing the problem.

Before we get into which sensor is which, we need to have a little discussion about oxygen sensor fault codes. There are several different types of oxygen sensor fault codes. Here are just some of the most common ones:

P0135 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Bank1 Sensor 1"
P0141 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2"
P0147 "Oxygen Sensor Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 3"
P0152 "Oxygen Sensor Voltage High Bank 2 Sensor 1"
P0159 "Oxygen Sensor Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 2"
P0171 "Oxygen Sensor Lean Sensor 1 Bank 1"
P0172 "Oxygen Sensor Lean Sensor 1 Bank 2"
P0174 "Oxygen Sensor Rich Sensor 1 Bank 1"
P0175 "Oxygen Sensor Rich Sensor 1 Bank 2"

There are many more possible oxygen sensor codes, but I only listed these to make my point. Many times the oxygen sensor code is NOT caused by the oxygen sensor itself. "Lean" or "Rich" oxygen sensor codes (i.e. P0171, P0174) are usually caused by something other than the oxygen sensor. Something is wrong, causing the engine to run lean (not enough fuel or too much air) or causing the engine to run rich (too much fuel or not enough air). In these cases, replacing the oxygen sensor will not fix a thing. (That is, unless you are trying to fix your bank account from having too high of a balance!) The new oxygen sensor will just set the same code as the original one. This is because the oxygen sensor is not CAUSING the problem, it is only REPORTING the problem.

High voltage codes (like P0152 above) can be caused by the oxygen sensor wires being shorted to another wire inside the wiring harness. Sometimes these codes are caused by bad grounds where some other component is trying to ground through the oxygen sensor circuit. Again, replacing the oxygen sensor will not fix this! In short, the problem needs to be diagnosed before running out and buying an oxygen sensor.

Just because a fault code has "Oxygen Sensor" or "O2 Sensor" or "O2S" in its description does not necessarily mean that an oxygen sensor needs to be replaced. Many do-it-yourselfers believe that all there is to fixing the car is to hook it to the "magic box", collect the fault codes and replace the parts the computer tells you to replace. There is nothing further from the truth.

Fault codes only point you toward which SYSTEM is failing. The system must be diagnosed to find the CAUSE of the failure. If this is not done properly, it will only result in wasting a bunch of your money. This is what you were trying to avoid by doing it yourself!

So, after reading all of the above, if you think you still want to replace an oxygen sensor, but don't know which one; here is how to figure it out:

Oxygen sensors are always numbered like this:

Bank 1 Sensor 1
Bank 2 Sensor 1
Bank 1 Sensor 2
Bank 2 Sensor 2

Some manufacturers use a kind of shorthand that reads different, but means the same thing:

Sensor 1/1 or O2s 1/1
Sensor 2/1 or O2s 2/1
Sensor 1/2 or O2s 1/2
Sensor 2/2 or O2s 2/2

Bank 1 is always the side of the engine where cylinder #1 is located and, of course, Bank 2 is the opposite side.
On a 4 cylinder engine, there is only one bank and it is always referred to as Bank 1. The exception to the 4 cylinder rule is on certain 4 cylinder engines (specifically, some Toyotas) there are two catalytic converters used. In this case, Bank 1 sensors will still be in the pipe for the catalyst that is connected to cylinder #1 and Bank 2 sensors will be in the other one.

Sensor 1 is always the "upstream" sensor (the one located BEFORE the catalytic converter).
Sensor 2 is always the "downstream" sensor (the one that is located AFTER the catalytic converter).
Sensor 3 refers to the ONLY "downstream" sensor where there are two sensors before the catalyst and only one after the catalyst. On very few vehicles the reference to this reads "Bank 1 Sensor 3".

If you do not know where cylinder #1 is, then you need to get a diagram of the firing order for your engine. Just post a question on FixYa.com and make sure you give the YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, and ENGINE SIZE of your vehicle and one or more of our experts will be happy to tell you how to find cylinder #1.

- DTTECH
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician


Also check out this article by dttech: What Else Could Be Wrong?
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2007 tl type s where is bank 2 sensor 1 oxygen sensor located. What is the replacement number of a sensor to kill Emission p0171 Notice and light

Oxygen sensors monitor the exhaust stream, comparing the oxygen content in it to the oxygen content of ambient air. When oxygen content is low, sensor voltage is high. When oxygen content is high, sensor voltage is low. The voltage created by the sensor is sent to the DME (engine control module) to help maintain a proper fuel mixture. The mixture preparation is used to keep the catalytic converters running at peak efficiency. The oxygen sensors used in E60 models covered in this article has four wires. Two of which are for oxygen sensor heating and two for the signal. The heater is used to get the sensor online faster. Previously, exhaust heat was used. One wire supplied a ground to the sensor for the signal, and the other was for the sensor signal.
Oxygen sensors should be replaced every 100,000 miles. In a perfect world that would be it. Wait until a specified mileage and replace the sensor. However, these sensors fail prematurely, set oxygen sensor fault codes and reduce fuel economy. In this article, I will show you how to identify the location of all four oxygen sensors and how to replace them. You will need an oxygen sensor socket to remove the sensors and remember to always work with a cool exhaust. Oxygen sensors are fragile. Do not drop, as damage may occur. Also, keep the sensor tip clean when reinstalling.
Oxygen sensors are laid out in banks, which refer to cylinders and in sensor numbers referring to before or after the catalytic converter. Bank1 or B1 refers to cylinders 1-3. Bank 2 or B2 refers to cylinders 4-6. Sensor 1 or S1 refers to the sensor before the catalytic converter. Sensor 2 or S2 refers to the sensor after the catalytic converter.
Remember that your car may have been serviced before and parts replaced with different size fasteners used in the replacement. The sizes of the nuts and bolts we give may be different from what you have so be prepared with different size sockets and wrenches.
Protect your eyes, hands and body from fluids, dust and debris while working on your vehicle. If working with the electrical system, disconnect the battery before beginning. Always catch fluids in appropriate containers and properly dispose of any fluid waste. Recycle parts, packaging and fluids when possible. Never work on your vehicle if you feel the task is beyond your ability.
Our vehicle may vary slightly from yours as models do change and evolve as they grow older. If something seems different, let us know and share your info to help other users. Do you have questions or want to add to the article? Leave a comment below. When leaving a comment, please leave your vehicle information.
Figure 1 Bank 1 Sensor 1 is indicated by a yellow arrow. Bank 2 Sensor 1 is pointed out with a green arrow. Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 2 Bank 1 Sensor 2 has a green arrow. Bank 2 Sensor 2 is shown with a yellow arrow. Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 3 Replacing sensors before catalytic converter: Oxygen sensors are located in the exhaust manifold. Remove the engine covers. See our tech article on engine covers removing. Locate the oxygen sensor electrical connectors at the right side of the engine above the exhaust manifold. Label or mark the wiring harness to aide during reinstallation. I suggest replacing one sensor at a time so you do not mix up connectors. Using an oxygen sensor socket, loosen the oxygen sensor connection to the exhaust manifold. Do not unscrew yet. Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 4 Replacing sensors before catalytic converter: Pull the wiring harness out of the mounts (green arrows) along the valve cover. Bank 1 sensor 1 shown, bank 2 sensor 1 is similar. Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 5 Replacing sensors before catalytic converter: Next, disconnect the electrical connector of the oxygen sensor you are replacing (yellow arrow). First, remove the electrical connector from the mounting bracket (green arrow) by pulling straight up. Once out, disconnect the electrical connector by pressing the release tab and pulling it apart. Note the wiring harness color and the factory sensors color code sensors to help when replacing. Locate the color of the sensor you loosened. Using an oxygen sensor socket, remove the oxygen sensor from the exhaust manifold. Lightly coat the new oxygen sensor thread with anti-seize compound. Install the new oxygen sensor and tighten to 50Nm (37 ft-lb). Then reroute the wiring harness and connect the electrical connector. Repeat if replacing both sensors. Then reassemble the engine covers and clear any engine fault codes using a BMW scan tool. Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 6 Replacing sensors after catalytic converter: Oxygen sensors are located in the exhaust, behind the catalytic converters. Working below the transmission, remove the transmission splash shield. See our tech article on lower splash shield replacing. Using an oxygen sensor socket, remove the oxygen sensor connection to the exhaust manifold. When reinstalling the sensor, do not allow the harness to remain twisted (green arrow). Be sure it is properly routed and tension free. Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 7 Replacing sensors after catalytic converter: Next, disconnect the electrical connector of the oxygen sensor you are replacing. First, remove the electrical connector from the mounting bracket (green arrow) by pulling it straight out toward the left side of the engine. Once out, disconnect the electrical connector by pressing the release and pulling it apart (inset). Note the wiring harness color, factory sensors color code sensors to help when replacing. Locate the color of the sensor you loosened. Using an oxygen sensor socket, remove the oxygen sensor from the exhaust manifold. Lightly coat the new oxygen sensor thread with anti-seize compound. Install the new oxygen sensor and tighten it to 50Nm (37 ft-lb). Large Image ' Extra-Large Image
Figure 8 Then reroute the wiring harness and connect the electrical connector. Repeat if replacing both sensors. Then reassemble the engine covers and clear any engine fault codes using a BMW scan tool.
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Po136-o137 says change 02 sensor on bank 1 sensor2 I did but engine light is still on 2004 chevy tahoe

code p 0136 refers to heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) 2 bank 1 ---circuit malfunction===causes ---heating inoperative ---wiring---HO2S--- ECM
also refers to oxygen sensor (O2S0 2 bank 1---circuit malfunction===causes --- wiring---O2S ---ecm
it also refers to heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) 2 bank 1 ---no signal===causes ---wiring --- HO2S---
code p 0137 refers to HO2S 2 bank 1 ---low voltage -===causes --exhaust leak---wiring short to ground ---HO2S--- ECM
it also refers to O2S 2 bank 1---low voltage ===causes exhaust leak---wiring short to ground ---O2S ---ECM
to set you up here-- there are 4 oxygen sensors in the system
2 are heated oxygen sensors (HO2S) on in each exhaust manifold or exhaust pipe before the cat converter and
2 oxygen sensors (O2S) -- one in each exhaust pipe after the cat converters
heated oxygen sensors have 4 wires and O2S sensors normally only 2 wires
it is more that possible that you changed the wrong sensors and in the process damaged the delicate wires with the incorrect spanner being used
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How many 02 sensor and how many wire each sensor

depending on the engine make
v8 and v6 have 2 oxygen sensors( O2S) , one after each cat converter with 2 wires and 2 heated oxygen sensors ( HO2S) in the exhaust manifold/ pipe before the cat converter with 4 wires each
6 cyl and 4 cyl engines have one oxygen sensor after that cat converter and one heated oxygen sensor before the cat converter
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What is a H2Os that was mentioned in my answer.

Stands for Heated oxygen sensor. You will see it designated like this: HO2S. Later model cars use a heater circuit in the oxygen sensor to heat it up for quicker operation. This is why you see 4- wire oxygen sensors; a heating element in the sensor requires 2 more wires- a power wire to the element and a ground wire for it.
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How do you change oxygen sensors on a 2000 hyundai sonata

Locate the two oxygen sensors on either side of the Sonata's catalytic converter on the exhaust manifold. The Sonata's oxygen sensor is gold and shaped liked a spark plug.

  • 2 Remove the Sonata's wiring harness from the end of the two oxygen sensors using your fingers. Do not damage the end of Sonata's wiring harness.
  • 3 Remove the two oxygen sensors from the Sonata's manifold using the oxygen sensor wrench.
  • 4 Apply the anti-seize compound to the threads of the Sonata's two new oxygen sensors.
  • 5 Install the two new oxygen sensors to the Sonata's manifold using the oxygen sensor wrench. Re-attach the wiring harness to the two new oxygen sensors using your fingers.
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    Where Are The sensor Banks On The 2004 GC

    Grand Cherokee oxygen sensor locations for 4.0 and 4.7 engines

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    Four wires (circuits) are used on each O2 sensor:

    • 12–volt feed circuit for the sensor heating element
    • Ground circuit for the heater element
    • Low-noise sensor return circuit to the PCM
    • Input circuit from the sensor back to the PCM to detect sensor operation

    O2S Sensor removal Never apply any type of grease to the oxygen sensor electrical connector, or attempt any soldering of the sensor wiring harness.
    WARNING: THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD, EXHAUST PIPES AND CATALYTIC CONVERTER(S) BECOME VERY HOT DURING ENGINE OPERATION. ALLOW ENGINE TO COOL BEFORE REMOVING OXYGEN SENSOR.
    1. Raise and support vehicle.
    2. Disconnect O2S pigtail harness from main wiring harness.
    3. If equipped, disconnect sensor wire harness mounting clips from engine or body.
    CAUTION: When disconnecting sensor electrical connector, do not pull directly on wire going into sensor.
    4. Remove O2S sensor with an oxygen sensor removal and installation tool.

    02S Sensor installation
    Threads of new oxygen sensors are factory coated with anti-seize compound to aid in removal. DO NOT add any additional anti-seize compound to threads of a new oxygen sensor.
    1. Install O2S sensor. Tighten to 22 ft. lbs. (30 N·m) torque.
    2. Connect O2S sensor wire connector to main wiring harness.
    3. If equipped, connect sensor wire harness mounting clips to engine or body. When Equipped: The O2S pigtail harness must be clipped and/or bolted back to their original positions on engine or body to prevent mechanical damage to wiring.


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    My 1997 dodge ram 1500 keeps dieing out on me when I take my foot

    At the shop we test the oxygen to determine which one is bad.
    1. Disconnect the the negative of the battery cable.
    2.Disconnect the wiring harness from the oxygen sensor.
    3. Remove the oxygen sensor.
    To install new oxygen sensor.
    1. clean the thread on the mount.
    2. install oxygen sensor.
    3. connect wiring harness
    4. connect battery cable.

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    Oxygen sensor 2000 2 liter Tracker

    You have an heated Oxygen sensor. 2 of the wires heat up the sensor and keep it at a certain temperature, it is turned on and off by the computer. The other 2 are use to send a very low voltage reading back to the computer to tell the computer if the engine is running rich or lean. I don't have a diagram to tell you which wire does what but you can get a manual and that should give you the information that you need and tell you how to trouble shoot it to tell if the sensor is bad or not, you may want to look for a wire laying on the exhaust, I have found wires burnt and lay on the metal.
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