2005 Ford Focus ZX3 SES, the blue high beam indicator in the dash comes on with low beams, and goes off with high beams. The indicator is on at the wrong time! I have tried the following: The turn signal switch, headlight switch, the complete instrument cluster;changed these parts from a same year focus that is working correctly. Still the same. Pulled relays and swopped them also. If I pull the high beam relay the high beams go off,if I pull the low beam relay the low beams go off, if I pull the daytime running light relay the lower power high beams go off , so I believe all the wires are correct. The cars fog light go on with the parking light and when the actual high beams are on(blue dash light off). Any other suggestions besides cutting the wires at the headlight bulbs and swopping would be greatly appreciated

I am not confused. The high beam dash indicator is on with the low beams. I am not confused. The high beam dash indicator is on with the low beams.

No need to get upset. I'm just trying to find a LOGICAL solution. Your statement "if I pull the daytime running light relay the lower power high beams go off " is what makes me think you have something confused. This is because there is no "lower power high beams". The DRL is when the system is running with a resistor on the LOW beams - soif you had said "lower power LOW beams" it would have made sense. I just figured that if you actually thought that it was your high beams going out when you pull the DRL relay, then you must be confused.

I'm sitting here looking at the electrical diagrams for your vehicle. Unless these circuits have been cut and wired backwards at the headlamps, or if the wire for the indicator has been cut and spliced into the low beam circuit, there is no way this can happen. No need to get upset. I'm just trying to find a LOGICAL solution. Your statement "if I pull the daytime running light relay the lower power high beams go off " is what makes me think you have something confused. This is because there is no "lower power high beams". The DRL is when the system is running with a resistor on the LOW beams - soif you had said "lower power LOW beams" it would have made sense. I just figured that if you actually thought that it was your high beams going out when you pull the DRL relay, then you must be confused. I'm sitting here looking at the electrical diagrams for your vehicle. Unless these circuits have been cut and wired backwards at the headlamps, or if the wire for the indicator has been cut and spliced into the low beam circuit, there is no way this can happen.

Also, do you have any aftermarket equipment installed? Like an aftermarket alarm system or something that would be tied into the lighting circuits? If you do, then this may not be installed correctly and possibly causing some kind of "feedback" through the high beam indicator. Also, do you have any aftermarket equipment installed? Like an aftermarket alarm system or something that would be tied into the lighting circuits? If you do, then this may not be installed correctly and possibly causing some kind of "feedback" through the high beam indicator.

I just pulled the headlight assemblies again and noticed that that both were made in 2008 by ford which means that they have been changed because the car is 2005. I know there was a recall on them. Could you tell me the color codes for the wires for the high and low beams? The wire harness plug can only go in one way but maybe the internal wires in the assembly are crossed or were changed in 2008? I have green/orange and green/ white and black at the lamps. At the harness into assembly on the passenger side green/orange and green/ white and black; on the drivers side green/orange and green/black and black. Which colors are high and low? I just pulled the headlight assemblies again and noticed that that both were made in 2008 by ford which means that they have been changed because the car is 2005. I know there was a recall on them. Could you tell me the color codes for the wires for the high and low beams? The wire harness plug can only go in one way but maybe the internal wires in the assembly are crossed or were changed in 2008? I have green/orange and green/ white and black at the lamps. At the harness into assembly on the passenger side green/orange and green/ white and black; on the drivers side green/orange and green/black and black. Which colors are high and low?

There is no aftermarket alarms or stereo. The fog lights or oem. There is no aftermarket alarms or stereo. The fog lights or oem.

According to the wiring diagrams - well, I think it is kinda dumb the way they did it...
The GREEN/ORANGE wire is the HIGH beam on the RIGHT headlamp and is the LOW BEAM on the LEFT headlamp. (Pretty dumb unless the schematics I have are wrong!) The GREEN/WHITE wire is the LOW beam at the RIGHT headlamp and the GREEN/BLACK is the HIGH beam on the LEFT headlamp. The BLACK wires are GROUND on both sides. You should be able to verify this by using a test lamp and checking with the connectors unplugged.
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I checked for Technical Service Bulletins for you vehicle. I found none pertaining to the headlamp system. If there is some kind of ground problem or something it is not very common or Ford would have published a bulletin on it.

The headlamps for the 2008 goes like this:
The YELLOW/VIOLET wires are HIGH beams for BOTH sides, the BLUE/GREEN is low beam for the RIGHT headlamp and the BROWN/BLUE is the LOW beam on the LEFT. The DRL also operates off of the LOW beams for the 2008 model. I don't know who told you that the DRL operates off of the HIGH beam, but they are mistaken. This may be true for some models, but not on a Ford Focus. According to the wiring diagrams - well, I think it is kinda dumb the way they did it... The GREEN/ORANGE wire is the HIGH beam on the RIGHT headlamp and is the LOW BEAM on the LEFT headlamp. (Pretty dumb unless the schematics I have are wrong!) The GREEN/WHITE wire is the LOW beam at the RIGHT headlamp and the GREEN/BLACK is the HIGH beam on the LEFT headlamp. The BLACK wires are GROUND on both sides. You should be able to verify this by using a test lamp and checking with the connectors unplugged. . I checked for Technical Service Bulletins for you vehicle. I found none pertaining to the headlamp system. If there is some kind of ground problem or something it is not very common or Ford would have published a bulletin on it. The headlamps for the 2008 goes like this: The YELLOW/VIOLET wires are HIGH beams for BOTH sides, the BLUE/GREEN is low beam for the RIGHT headlamp and the BROWN/BLUE is the LOW beam on the LEFT. The DRL also operates off of the LOW beams for the 2008 model. I don't know who told you that the DRL operates off of the HIGH beam, but they are mistaken. This may be true for some models, but not on a Ford Focus.

OK thanks. The service manager at the local ford dealer told me about the DRL on high beams. He also wanted to change the signal light switch on the column for $250 part plus labor.
I will put my meter on and check. But the only EASY solution which would be to cut the wires at the lamps and swop them or buy new sockets and put male spade connectors on the leads and plug them into the old sockets to get the high and low correct especially if the DRL suppose to be on the low beams. THANKS again for all your help OK thanks. The service manager at the local ford dealer told me about the DRL on high beams. He also wanted to change the signal light switch on the column for $250 part plus labor. I will put my meter on and check. But the only EASY solution which would be to cut the wires at the lamps and swop them or buy new sockets and put male spade connectors on the leads and plug them into the old sockets to get the high and low correct especially if the DRL suppose to be on the low beams. THANKS again for all your help

You shouldn't have to cut any wires. If I were doing this, I would simply remove the pins from the connector and move them around to where they are needed. I would do this on the headlamp assembly if possible before doing it on the vehicle harness end. That way you stay true to the OEM diagrams. You shouldn't have to cut any wires. If I were doing this, I would simply remove the pins from the connector and move them around to where they are needed. I would do this on the headlamp assembly if possible before doing it on the vehicle harness end. That way you stay true to the OEM diagrams.

P.S. I also looked at the specs for the headlamps themselves. The 2005 requires a #2007 bulb while the 2008 takes the brighter #H13 bulbs. This is most likely the reason for the difference in the wiring. Someone probably changed the entire headlamp assembly because they wanted to use the brighter bulbs. You can't use an #H13 bulb in a socket for a #2007. P.S. I also looked at the specs for the headlamps themselves. The 2005 requires a #2007 bulb while the 2008 takes the brighter #H13 bulbs. This is most likely the reason for the difference in the wiring. Someone probably changed the entire headlamp assembly because they wanted to use the brighter bulbs. You can't use an #H13 bulb in a socket for a #2007.

Sorry. That last comment should read #9007 NOT #2007. Sorry. That last comment should read #9007 NOT #2007.

I have 9007 bulbs. How would I move the pins they seem liked they are sealed to keep out moisture. I have 9007 bulbs. How would I move the pins they seem liked they are sealed to keep out moisture.

I don't have a Focus here where I can look at it. The connector will come apart and you can remove the pins. If your headlamp assembly has the pins moulded into it, then you will have to do it at the vehicle harness end. This one, for sure will come apart and you will be able to move the pins. It can be done with some headlamp assemblies that have small wiring harnesses in them. I am just not sure if yours will have that. They can all be so different, I can't tell you without having the thing in my hand. In any case, it is better to move the pins than to cut and splice the wires....less invasive and less likely to give you trouble in the future. I don't have a Focus here where I can look at it. The connector will come apart and you can remove the pins. If your headlamp assembly has the pins moulded into it, then you will have to do it at the vehicle harness end. This one, for sure will come apart and you will be able to move the pins. It can be done with some headlamp assemblies that have small wiring harnesses in them. I am just not sure if yours will have that. They can all be so different, I can't tell you without having the thing in my hand. In any case, it is better to move the pins than to cut and splice the wires....less invasive and less likely to give you trouble in the future.

You know, the more I thik about this, the more I wonder how this came about in the first place? If you are using #9007 bulbs, the only way these wires could have messed up is if someone moved them...WHY would anyone do that???
Are you sure you don't have a shorted bulb? I have seen things happen like the elements inside the bulb stretch from heat and touch each other. So one bulb is high AND low beam all the time and causes a feedback through the system. Replacing the bulbs will fix this if this is the case. You know, the more I thik about this, the more I wonder how this came about in the first place? If you are using #9007 bulbs, the only way these wires could have messed up is if someone moved them...WHY would anyone do that??? Are you sure you don't have a shorted bulb? I have seen things happen like the elements inside the bulb stretch from heat and touch each other. So one bulb is high AND low beam all the time and causes a feedback through the system. Replacing the bulbs will fix this if this is the case.