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Posted on Aug 10, 2008

Accidently damaged the ignition key.and now the car will start and the cut off,and the key code light flashes

  • Anonymous Mar 31, 2014

    Put key in ignition turn to start and yellow light with key and car on it starts to flash and car won't start

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If the key and the fob have separated, you should still be able to start the car by holding the fob near the ignition when you start the vehicle. This will allow your car to read the immobilizer code from the chip in your fob. You can do this temporarily until you can get a new key. Once the car starts, you can move the fob away - it only needs to be there while starting the car.

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I crashed my Volvo s80 2007 3.2 and worked on putting it back together and it won't cracked or start and I can't pull out the fob I thought it might be the shut off full switch but I can't find it?

If your 2007 Volvo S80 3.2 is not starting after being involved in an accident, there could be a number of issues that need to be addressed. Here are a few things to check:
  1. Ignition switch: The ignition switch is responsible for sending power to the starter motor and other electrical components. If the switch is damaged or not working properly, the engine will not start.
  2. Battery: After an accident, the battery may have been damaged or disconnected. Check to make sure the battery is fully charged and connected properly.
  3. Fuel system: The fuel system may have been damaged in the accident, preventing fuel from reaching the engine. Check the fuel pump, fuel filter, and fuel pressure to make sure they are working properly.
  4. Starter motor: The starter motor is responsible for turning the engine over when the key is turned. If the starter motor is damaged, the engine will not start.
  5. Shut-off switch: Some Volvo models have a shutoff switch that is triggered in the event of an accident to prevent the engine from starting. This switch may have been triggered and needs to be reset.
  6. Key fob: The key fob needs to be in the car for the car to start. If the key fob won't come out of the ignition, it may be that the key fob is jammed inside the ignition and needs to be pulled out.
It's very likely that the shutoff switch is the cause of the problem, as you suspected. You should check your car's owner manual or contact a Volvo dealership or a professional mechanic to help you locate the shut-off switch and check if it is the cause of the problem. It's also possible that the accident caused multiple issues and it's best to have the car properly inspected by a professional.
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Car wont start light blinking

The red light flashing is telling you that the security circuit has not recognised your key chip so it will not start. Either there is a fault on the reader or you have dropped your key and damaged/lost te chip.
Ring an auto locksmith. They will quickly cut you a set of keys and code them to your car.
Always keep a spare key handy.
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Bought 2012 Fiat 500 Pop that has front end damage. Key stuck.

To remove the key, you take off the steering wheel covers. Underneath, there is a red tab to push in. Push in the red tab and remove key. Fuel cut off is your next problem. You use your directionals to reset the airbag module to turn on fuel. The procedure is listed in the owners manual under " in case of accident"
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I have a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero. A month ago I did have the ignition replaced in it to the tune of $795. I got in my car today, and it turns, starts then shuts off after about two seconds. It does...

It still sounds like a passkey or theft deterrent issue. The check engine light is most likely a B2865 or B2860 code for an invalid key, likely related to the ignition switch being replaced. The passlock sensor is inside the ignition switch, and could have been damaged during install. Try just turning the key on and watch the security light, if it starts to flash after a few minutes, keep the key on for 10 minutes (or until it stops flashing). Then retry to start. You may have to have it scanned for further diagnosis.
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What does it mean when the airbag light comes on?

Either the sensor in the bumper has lost communication with the airbag module, or the airbag module is bad, or the airbag package itself is damaged somehow.
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My car starts but cuts out when i try to... my car starts but cuts out when i try to put it in gear. runs fine when im driving.

Have you tried cycling key for fault codes? Turn ignition to on (not start) then off, then on, then off, then on, leave it on, and count flashes of check engine light.
flash,flash,pause, flash flash, is code 22. 3 flashes, pause, then 5 flashes, would be code 35, etc. See what you get, & get back to us with them if you need more help.
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IGNITION OVERIDE DUE TO SECURITY 1993 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE. SECURITY LIGHT IS FLASHING JEEP STARTS BUT CUTS OUT IMMEDIATELY. PULLED FUSE DIDNT WORK.

sounds like your ignition key, the code that it stores has broken, try spare key and take it to a deeler however you do this .
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My 1998 ford expedition won t start and the theft

the light blinks when the system is armed. Normal.

Your key has to be able to communicate with the receiver in the ignition area. Does your other key work ok?

Anti-Theft The passive anti-theft system (PATS) uses radio frequency identification technology to deter a driveaway theft. Passive means that it does not require any activity from the user.
  • During each vehicle start sequence, the ignition key identification code is requested by the PATS module.
  • If the key's ID code has been programmed into the system, the vehicle powertrain control module (PCM) (12A650) is allowed to operate; this allows the vehicle to start.
  • If the key's ID code is not programmed into the PATS module, or if no encoded key is detected, then the vehicle PCM is disabled.
The PATS module, located under the driver side instrument panel, communicates the state of the security system to the PCM via the module communications network. The PCM, based on the communications from the PATS module, will determine if the vehicle's engine will be enabled to start. If the PCM prevents the vehicle from starting because of PATS, the PCM will store a DTC in memory.
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The anti-theft vehicle protection system utilizes the THEFT indicator, located in the instrument cluster (10849), when the ignition switch is turned to the RUN/START position. The indicator provides system prove out and operating status to the customer or technician.
Each PATS ignition key holds electronics that give each key a unique ID code.
The PATS will activate the indicator signal when the ignition switch is turned to the RUN/START position. The THEFT indicator will turn ON for two seconds, then turn OFF.
If the THEFT indicator flashes for one minute or more, this indicates that there was no key code received.
When the vehicle ignition switch is placed in either RUN or START, the PATS module requests the ignition key ID code. The PATS module requests the ignition key ID code by supplying power, ground, and the carrier signal to the transceiver to energize the ignition key. After the energize period, the key transmits its ID code to the transceiver module, which sends it to the PATS module.
The PATS module then compares the received KEY ID code to those stored in memory (16 maximum). If the ID matches, the PATS module sends an enable signal to the PCM over the module communication network.
The passive vehicle protection system utilizes the engine management capabilities of the PCM to enable or disable the vehicle engine. The module communication network is used to send and receive messages to and from the PCM.
Within one second after engine start, the PCM must receive an enable signal from the PATS module through the module communication network or the engine is disabled before the vehicle can be moved.
If the PATS module recognizes a stored ignition key code but there is a module communication network concern preventing the PCM from recognizing the start enable signal from the PATS module, the vehicle engine will be disabled. If this happens, the PATS module will flash the THEFT indicator for one minute, then flash diagnostic trouble code 16 ten times to indicate there is a problem with the module communication network circuits or the PCM is not responding properly.
The passive vehicle protection system will disable the vehicle from starting if there is a:
  • Damaged encoded key.
  • Unprogrammed key.
  • Non-encoded key (key has no electronics).
  • Wiring concern.
  • Transceiver concern.
  • Control module concern.
  • Module communications network concern.
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Key Programming —Spare Key NOTE: Before starting this procedure, make sure the key(s) you want to program have the correct mechanical cut.
NOTE: Performing this procedure does not erase existing programmed keys.
  1. Insert the programmed key in the ignition. Turn to RUN.
  1. THEFT indicator proves out after two seconds.
  1. Remove the programmed key.
  1. Within 15 seconds, insert the new key in the ignition and turn to RUN.
  1. THEFT indicator proves out after two seconds.
  1. The extra key is now programmed.
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Key Programming —New Key (Without Diagnostic Tool) NOTE: Before starting this procedure, make sure the key(s) you want to program have the correct mechanical cut.
  1. Insert the nonprogrammed key in the ignition and turn to RUN.
  1. THEFT indicator flashes rapidly.
  1. After 15 minutes of flashing, the THEFT indicator will stop flashing.
  1. Within five minutes after the THEFT indicator has stopped flashing, turn the ignition key to OFF and back to RUN.
  1. After 15 minutes of flashing, the THEFT indicator will stop flashing.
  1. Within five minutes after the THEFT indicator has stopped flashing, turn the ignition key to OFF and back to RUN.
  1. After 15 minutes of flashing, the THEFT indicator will stop flashing.
  1. All originally programmed keys are now erased, and only the key in the ignition is programmed.
  1. Additional keys may be programmed; refer to Key Programming—Spare Key .
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2001 Ford Windstar, won't start, theft light on, van has a new battery

theft light should be flashing when system is armed. It should reset itself. If on steady, you have a probelem. Try your other key first. This inof should help you. Report back if you still need help.

Anti-Theft —Passive The passive anti-theft system (PATS) contains the following components:
  • theft indicator
  • encoded ignition key
  • PATS transceiver module
  • powertrain control module (PCM)
  • standard corporate protocol (SCP) communication network
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Principles of Operation
The PATS uses a specially encoded ignition key. Each encoded ignition key contains a permanently installed electronic device called a transponder. Each transponder contains a unique electronic identification code out of over 18 billion, billion combinations.
The passive anti-theft system (PATS), also known as SecuriLock ®, uses radio frequency identification technology to deter a driveaway theft. This system is known as Securilock® in North America, Safeguard® in the U.K., and PATS in Continental Europe. Passive means that it does not require any activity from the user.
The SecuriLock® System (PATS) is not compatible with aftermarket remote start systems, which allow the vehicle to be started from outside the vehicle. These systems may reduce the vehicle security level, and also may cause no-start issues. If equipped the remote start system must be removed before investigation of PATS-related, no-start issues.
Each encoded ignition key must be programmed into the vehicle's powertrain electronic control (PCM) before it can be used to start the engine. There are special diagnostic repair procedures described in this section that must be carried out if a new encoded ignition key is necessary.
This system contains a new feature named Unlimited Key Mode. This feature allows a customer to program more than eight keys to the vehicle if they request it. Each vehicle in Unlimited Key Mode is set up with a special Unlimited Transponder Security Key. This allows all the customer vehicles to share the same keys, but no other keys from outside can be used to operate the vehicles. For an individual customer, any randomly selected Security Key is acceptable. Refer to Unlimited Key Mode Programming in Key Programming Switch State Control in this section.
The PATS transceiver module communicates with the encoded ignition key. The module is located behind the steering column shroud and contains an antenna connected to a small electronics module. During each vehicle start sequence, the transceiver module reads the encoded ignition key identification code and sends data to the PCM.
The control functions are contained in the PCM. This module carries out all of the PATS functions, such as receiving the identification code from the encoded ignition key and controlling the engine enable. The PCM initiates the key interrogation sequence when the vehicle ignition switch is turned to RUN or START.
All elements of the PATS must be functional before the engine is allowed to start. If any of the components are not working correctly, the vehicle will not start.
The PATS uses a visual theft indicator. The indicator will prove out for three seconds when the ignition switch is turned to RUN or START under normal operation. If there is a PATS concern, this indicator will either flash rapidly or glow steadily when the ignition switch is turned to RUN or START. The PATS system also flashes the theft indicator every two seconds at ignition OFF to act as a visual deterrent.
The following will activate the PATS and will disable the vehicle from starting:
  • incorrectly encoded ignition key
  • damaged encoded ignition key
  • unprogrammed key
  • non-encoded key (key has no electronics)
  • damaged wiring
  • damaged transceiver
  • damaged PCM
Inspection and Verification
  1. Verify the customer concern by operating the system.
  1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage.


Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Large metallic objects, a second ignition key on the same key ring as the PATS ignition key or electronic devices on the key chain that can be use to purchase gasoline or similar items
  • Ignition lock cylinder
  • PATS key
  • Use of a non-PATS key
  • More than one PATS key on key chain
  • Central junction box (CJB) fuse 16 (15A)
  • Battery junction box (BJB) fuse 20 (15A)
  • PATS transceiver module
  • Ignition switch
  • Loose or corroded connection(s)
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Security light flashing, does not turn over, do i replace ignition or ecm or both? Do i need new key if i replace ignition? I went to work car started fine. Then went to start the car and go homeand the...

your key has been deactivated, try placing the key in the ignition turn the key to on and leave it there for a minimum of ten minutes. then turn the key off and try restarting the car. this should recode the key to the car and it should start. If this dont work you will have to get the key recoded for your car.
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