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Anonymous Posted on Apr 28, 2017

My daughter ran her 98 Civic EX into a ditch flattening the front tire on the right front and bending the entire rear left wheel inward. I replaced to lower control arm in the rear, but now the car has severe torque steer. I tried to have an alignment done and they told me that the front camber is way out of tolerance and can't be adjusted. I know the problem is with the control arms in the front, but how can I tell if they're bent or if it's just the bushings that are destroyed and need replacing? I don't want to have to replace both arms if I don't need to.

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Frame or unibody bent and or upper or lower control arms them selves are bent --compare the control arms to the other side

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Not a lower control arm problem
the wheel alignment guy is not lying

the front wheel drive only has tow in toe out adjustments
no camber adjustments
the frame is pre stressed at manufacture set at zero

if the shock tower frame on any front wheel drive gets bent up.... even a little bit
the camber will be way out
even front ride height may be way out on each front side

too dangerous to drive
the car is a write off


only good to sell for parts or buy the same model and swap over its good bits

if you like the car a lot
to correct the damage needs the front chassis stripped back to frame and put on a frame straightenerMy daughter ran her 98 Civic EX into a ditch - d47f961b-7315-43ab-a146-e3069f36ad5f.jpg

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 22, 2009

SOURCE: Tire Problem 1997 honda civic

change the struts and have a 4 wheel alignment done

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 02, 2009

SOURCE: 91hondaAcordWagon,somethings is bent but not so bad u can see

I just purchased a 91 prelude with the same problem. After crawling underneath with flashlight and after a quick inspection I found the rear cross member was tweaked. Pick one up from Hondapartsunlimited on ebay for around $40.00 problem solved. Maybe something you could check on your vehicle.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 30, 2009

SOURCE: My 95 honda accord has a rear alignment problem.

Yes you should get it align, in the long run it will cost less than new tires.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 15, 2010

SOURCE: 1988 honda prelude, 120,000 miles,

Hi,

All I can offer is personal advise on this one and largely it depends on the value you place on the car however just a couple of questions I would be inclined to ask, why has he suddenly decided it needs a new transmission after carrying out the work, did you have any problems with gear changes etc previous to taking it to him? It`s likely he has had to remove the drive shaft from the transmission to replace the cv assembly so has he damaged it during removal and refitting himself? Also did he suggest forgoing the title to him as payment or did you? Again it`s a bit strange sounding, if he suggested it then I would be dubious of his motives.

Ultimately it`s up to you to decide what makes better sense financially to you, just be sure this transmission fault is not due to his workmanship and this is not just a cover up attempt.

Hope this helps and thanks for using fixya,

John

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  • Posted on Jun 10, 2011

SOURCE: 08 honda pilot-cupping tire wear on rear drivers

what you need is an alignment. to have an alignment done, no parts need to be replaced. the car is put on a machine which measures 3 things on the wheels. then after the measurments are in, the suspension is adjusted, which makes your tire wear even. but like i said, no place needs to be replaced for an alignment. unless the part is visually damaged or making unusual noises it shouldnt need to be replaced. also, regular mechanics usually dont have the equipment to measure if your alignment is off or not. which means you have to take it to an alignment specialist, and they should give you a price of how much it should cost. usually is around 100 dollars for one pair of wheels(front or back) and should be under 200 for both front and back. hope this helps, goodluck.

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