2003 Ford Expedition Logo
Posted on Mar 08, 2011
Answered by a Fixya Expert

Trustworthy Expert Solutions

At Fixya.com, our trusted experts are meticulously vetted and possess extensive experience in their respective fields. Backed by a community of knowledgeable professionals, our platform ensures that the solutions provided are thoroughly researched and validated.

View Our Top Experts

Rear wiper turned to off position continues to draw on battery until dead

1 Answer

Anonymous

Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Brigadier General:

An expert that has over 10,000 points.

  • Master 3,911 Answers
  • Posted on Mar 08, 2011
Anonymous
Master
Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Brigadier General:

An expert that has over 10,000 points.

Joined: Feb 14, 2009
Answers
3911
Questions
3
Helped
985467
Points
10712

Wiper motors have a circuit, always 12V on, which returns them to the rest position even after the switch is in OFF position. I would suspect a malfunction in that circuit. it is inside the motor body and not replaceable other than by replacing the whole wiper motor.

Add Your Answer

×

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

0helpful
1answer

Ford escape 2006 rear wiper innoperative

Do you know how these wipers Work / what controls them ? Do you know what a smart junction box is ?
Rear Window Wiper Operation
The rear wiper motor is controlled by the SJB. The SJB supplies power to the rear wiper motor from the integrated rear wiper relay. The SJB will activate the relay when all of the following conditions are met:
  • Ignition switch is in the ON position
  • Liftgate glass and liftgate are closed
  • Multifunction switch is in the ON or INTERMITTENT position
The SJB also supplies voltage to the rear wiper motor from SJB fuse 21 (10A) when the ignition switch is in the ON position. This power feed is used to continue the wipe cycle when the multifunction switch is turned to the OFF position. The SJB receives inputs from the multifunction switch that applies ground to the low speed wipe input or applies ground to the intermittent wipe input. When either of these circuits are grounded, the SJB activates the integrated rear wiper relay and power is supplied to the rear wiper motor to move the rear wiper motor from the PARK position. An internal switch in the rear wiper motor then moves to the RUN position which connects the accessory relay power to the rear wiper motor. When the rear wiper motor returns to the PARK position, the internal switch in the rear wiper motor moves back to the PARK position. If the multifunction switch is in the ON position, the rear wiper relay is still activated, power is supplied to the rear wiper motor, and the wipe cycle starts again. If the multifunction switch is in the INTERMITTENT position, the rear wiper relay does not activate until the predetermined dwell time has elapsed, at which time the SJB activates the rear wiper relay and the wipe cycle starts again.

Do you know what DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes are ?
Smart Junction Box (SJB) Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index DTC Description Source Action B1244 Wiper Rear Motor Run Relay Coil Circuit Failure SJB If the rear wiper is inoperative, Go To Pinpoint Test B . If the rear wiper is always ON, Go To Pinpoint Test D . B1245 Wiper Rear Motor Run Relay Coil Circuit Short to Battery SJB Go To Pinpoint Test B . B1614 Wiper Rear Mode Select Switch Circuit Failure SJB Go To Pinpoint Test D .
Did you have it checked for DTC'S ?
0helpful
1answer

2002 trialblazer rear window wiper inop. changed switch and motor. no power to motor. cannot find relay nor fuse

There are something's involved that you are not aware of , or familiar with . Electronic control modules .
Rear Wiper/Washer System Controls
• Body control module (BCM)
• Liftgate control module (LGM)
• Rear wiper/washer switch
Do you know what a serial data network is ?
Rear Wiper/Washer System Operation
The rear window wiper/washer switch is an input to the BCM. The requested rear wiper mode is sent to the liftgate control module (LGM) by the BCM as a message on the serial data circuit, and the rear window wiper motor is controlled by the LGM. The switch power circuit to the rear wiper/washer switch is a 12-volt reference supplied by the BCM during ignition on, accessory or RAP power modes. The rear wiper/washer switch is a series of resistors and the switch position is determined by the voltage of the rear wiper/washer switch signal circuit to the BCM. The rear wiper/washer switch has continuity at all times and the BCM expects a rear wiper/washer switch signal voltage in all switch positions including OFF. The rear wiper motor is supplied battery positive voltage and ground. The LGM controls rear wiper motor operation through the rear wiper motor control circuit. The rear wiper motor control circuit is supplied a battery positive reference voltage by the rear wiper motor module and is pulse width modulated to ground by the LGM. The duty cycle of the pulse width modulation determines the rear wiper motor operating mode. The liftglass and liftgate ajar switches are inputs to the LGM and must be in an inactive state in order for rear wiper washer system operation to be enabled. When an ajar switch is active the LGM suspends wiper motor operation directly and sends the ajar switch status messages over the serial data circuit enabling the BCM to suspend washer pump operation. The rear window washer pump is controlled by the BCM through the rear washer relay. Battery positive voltage is supplied to the coil and switch sides of the rear washer relay. When the rear window wash request is active the BCM energizes the relay by grounding the relay coil through the rear washer relay control circuit. When the relay is energized battery positive voltage to the relay switch is supplied to the washer pump control circuit.

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop and have it checked for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes .
DTC B1017 or B3970
The rear wiper motor is supplied battery positive voltage and ground. The liftgate control module controls rear wiper motor operation through the rear wiper motor control circuit. The rear wiper motor control circuit is supplied a battery positive reference voltage by the rear wiper motor module and is pulse width modulated to ground by the liftgate control module. The duty cycle of the pulse width modulation determines the rear wiper motor operating mode.
DTC B3799

2
Turn the ignition ON.
Operate the rear wiper switch through all the switch positions.
Does the rear window wiper operate normally?
--
YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
3
Install a scan tool.
Display the liftgate control module data list.
Observe the following parameters while operating the respective switches. Refer to Scan Tool Data List for typical values.
• Liftgate Ajar Switch
• Liftglass Ajar Switch
Did the scan tool indicate the correct switch positions?
--
Go to Step 4
Go to Courtesy Lamps Inoperative in Lighting Systems
4
Observe the requested rear wiper parameter in LGM data list.
Operate the rear wiper switch through all the switch positions.
Does the scan tool indicate the correct requested rear wiper parameter in relation to the switch position?
--
Go to Step 5
Go to Step 6
0helpful
1answer

I have a 1995 Plymouth Voyager how do i turn off the rear wiper it only runs when the key is turned over but im not sure how to turn it off is it the same button used to turn it on

From your description it sounds like you need a new rear wiper motor. If I understand your description correctly. When you active the rear wipers, they work but when you press the same button, to turn them off. The wipers still continue to move. The wipers will turn off if you turn off the ignition key (when the wiper blade is in the parked position). and when you restart the van the rear wiper still stays off until you press and active the rear wipers. If I understood you correctly then I will suggest that you take a closer look at the rear wiper motor. If you have any other questions, please write back. I would like to hear from you and the progress you have made, good luck.
1helpful
2answers

Dead battery new batt alt gr cable no fues blow jo

Common battery drain would be 1. the light under the hood staying on when the hood is closed. 2. The vanity light over the drivers sun shade if there is anything up there that is keeping the vanity shades from closing all the way. 3. pull the fuse to the rear wiper motor, common for the wiper motor to lose it's position and tries to close even when it's already closed. 4 there is a short in your 4wd encoder motor on the transfer case.
Start with the simple and check them all one by one till you have determined where your voltage drain is coming from.
Thank you for using fixya and good luck
0helpful
2answers

Electric draw 6 plus amps

You have to identify which circut is the draw on. with a volt ohm meter set to mA setting you measure the the draw. remove the positive battery terminal and put the meter in series. if you have more than a 26mA draw you statr pulling fuses under thehood to identify the circuit. once the problem circuit is found find what component on the circuit is causing the draw. Good luck
1helpful
2answers

If i leave the battery connected overnightit

NO the alarm does not draw that much current for it to drain the battery. Look for a light bulb like the one under the hood or the glove box. The other thing to is if you have a rear wiper for the window, it's been know for the wiper arm not to return full back to it's neutral position due to corrosion at the shaft and the motor will draw current trying to pull the wiper arm back to the neutral position. Try pulling the fuse to the rear wiper motor from the fuse box and see if the battery stops draining. Good luck and hope this helps friend. 
3helpful
2answers

AC & Rear wiper switch button indicator lights blink

The procedure for re-setting the HVAC control panel on a 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan follows:
With ignition on but not running
1. turn knob to air vents
2. turn fan knob to ON
3. temperature setting on COLD (2X) {I have dual temp controls}
4. hold top(rear wiper) and bottom (rear wiper with wash) buttons pressing down together until all the buttons cycle through (this will require 1 to 2 minutes of continuous pressing)
I learned this from a very helpful local Dodge service adviser
0helpful
1answer

2001 GMC Yukon Denali XL -intermittent dead battery

The wiper should not move regardless of battery change as the wiper switch should have isolated it.It seems to be the only ,as you say,strange thing and would be inclined to believe that that is the probable cause of your fault.Do like your testing method and hope you track the fault down.Good luck and happy new year.
1helpful
1answer

Battery drains down over night

that click noise is nothing! when you put neg post on then positive sparky? if so probably solenoid circuit ignition on starter will draw power but will "NOT " engaged until you crank Key!!
3helpful
1answer

Blinking lights

reset your computer, do this by removing thepositive battery cable for 10 mins.......

if this doe snot work, then some thing went bad when the van was jumped.
Not finding what you are looking for?

228 views

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Ford Experts

ZJ Limited
ZJ Limited

Level 3 Expert

17989 Answers

Thomas Perkins
Thomas Perkins

Level 3 Expert

15088 Answers

xxxxxx xxx

Level 3 Expert

5117 Answers

Are you a Ford Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...