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Anonymous Posted on Jul 16, 2008

Exhaust Pipe/Flange Gasket

My exhaust pipe is no longer connected to my muffler. I'm wondering if I can replace the connecting parts myself or if it's easy to weld back together. The pieces are pretty rusty.

I'm trying to avoid replacing the entire exhaust pipe and muffler considering the car is 13 years old.

Thanks for any input.

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