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Engine is losing antifreeze. New radiator, thermostat and head gasket. No water/antifreeze in the base pan. Pressure tested and ok.

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If it is not leaking try taking the top off the reservoir, crank it and let it warm up, if no coolent rises into the reservoir when it is warm, add some coolant until it just starts to fill the res...it might go down some then and more till it rises. if it does not rise or fall. Turn it off, let it cool the fill to the mark. If this aint it then it might be leaking....check the heater hoses and inside the care for coolant. might be the heater.

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See Figure 1
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