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I have repair my cooling sytem replaced from top to bottom new radiator,water pump, timebelt, thermostat, and new switch in radiator. but my fan are not running need help why???

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These cars have been known to have bad radiator fan relays/condensor fan relay. they're located on drivers side,in small relay box attached to radiatortop support bracket.that relay is also common with several others on car so you could `technically swap out with another identical relay from car for testing purposes.anyways.

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explanied above.
c. remove the upper radiator hose from the thermostat housing on the engine block.
d. remove the two bolts from the thermostat housing. Please note the way it was bolted to the engine. Clean its housing and seating areas.
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d. gently and firmly pull out each fan relay. Replace with new ones as needed.

To replace the water temperature sensor:
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1. If the fan doesn't operate, disconnect the fan and apply voltage across the fan terminals. If the fan still doesn't run, it needs a new motor.

2. If the fan runs, with the jumpers but not when connected, the fan relay is the most likely problem.

3. If fan operates but a high current draw is suspected continue with the following ammeter TESTING.

4. Disconnect the electrical connector from the cooling fan.

5. Using an ammeter and jumper wires, connect the fan motor in series with the battery and ammeter. With the fan running, check the ammeter reading, it should be 3.4-5.0 amps; if not, replace the motor.

6. Reconnect the fan's electrical connector. Start the engine, allow it to reach temperatures above 194°F and confirm that the fan runs. If the fan doesn't run, replace the temperature switch.



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* Place the stethoscope or hose on the bearing or pump shaft.
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Replace the pump in this case.

You will also notice leakage around the pump housing if the seal has failed as well. this will strain the impeller and, ruin the pump.

Now. the last area of concern will be the thermostat. this is the most common issue that will inflict overheating in many vehicles. The thermostat is used to control the flow of engine coolant. When the engine is cold, the thermostat is closed to prevent coolant from circulating through the engine. As the engine begins to warm up, the thermostat opens to allow the coolant to flow through the radiator and cool the engine to its normal operating temperature. Fuel economy and engine durability is increased when operated at normal operating temperature.


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