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Misfire on slight throttle

Hi my name is Jaco.

I have an B5 AUDI A4 2.4 V6 5V (1999)

It seems to be running lean on bank number 2 (cylinders 4,5,6) Took it to Audi but they don't know what it is. Said they'll have to go through a proccess of illimanation cause the don't have a rolling road......... sounds a bit pricey to me.

Basically when it reaches opperating temperature it seems to misfire all the time under slight accelleration. It purrs like a kitten at idle

Any feed back would be greatly appretiated.

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  • Posted on Apr 09, 2017
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Any codes?Have you done tune up? coils, wires, fuel filter.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 14, 2008

SOURCE: HELP, MISFIRING: 1999 Audi A6 Quattro Avant Wagon

P1127 Long Term Fuel Trim mult.,Bank1 System too Rich

P1129 Long Term Fuel Trim mult.,Bank2 System too Rich

P1250 Fuel Level Too Low

P1300 Misfire detected Reason: Fuel level too low

P0154 02 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)

P0300 Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected

P0303 Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected

P0304 Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected

It sounds like there is a lot going on.

Good Luck

Brian

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 19, 2009

SOURCE: 2001 audi a4 CEL came on

I would start with the cylinder 4 spark plug and make sure it look good and is firing correctly.  After that I would look either at the final coil, ignition module and then o2 sensor.  These problems are so hard to diagnose and are trial and error so much of the time.

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David Parker

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  • Posted on Aug 09, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 audi a4 1.8 t cold start problem

It might be an injector problem.Sometimes if the injectors are not sealing properly they can leak fuel into the manifold even when the engine is off as there is still residual pressure there and you engine would be essentially' flooded' when you try start it again .After half an hour or so,and it would take some seconds after that to run normally untill the excess fuel is burned.

Have them checked and replaced if needed.

Please leave positive feedback if I have helped

Thanks

Testimonial: "it was an injector problem like you said. thank you!!!!!"

bs77bird

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  • Posted on Sep 03, 2009

SOURCE: 2004 Audi A4 misfire

it is always a good idea to stay with o.e.m parts and yes there is updated parts in the newer coils. and yes the M.A.F will also cause misfire faults but will not make check engine light flash or make car shake and shudder. also check you wire harness going to your coils make sure your ground wires are not cracked. That could be the main culprate. good luck hope this helps

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 12, 2009

SOURCE: 2005 Audi A4 1.8T QT, cylinder 4 misfire p0304

I too have the same problem on my 2005 1.8t B6. I noticed a hole in the breather hose coming off the valve cover that runs to another port under the intake manifold. I have the hoses on order and should be here on Wednesday. I'll post again if that fixes my problem.

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DTC P0171 "System Too Lean Bank 1"
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When you look at the firing order this way, you can see that cylinders 1 an 5, 4 and 3, and 2 and 6, are "PAIRED" cylinders. They are exacly opposite in the firing order. Now, the cylinder only fires every second revolution of the crankshaft. With paired cylinders, one of the cylinders in the pair will fire on the first revolution and the other cylinder will fire on the second revolution.

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