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Had a po102 code on a 2002 3800 engine chevy check voltage at 12 volts.cleaned sensor. reset code now it says po102 pd with no engine,but engine stalls when driving

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HI, The DTC set PO102 is for your MAF (mass air flow) sensor. this sensors measures the air moving past it my heating a fine wire much like one inside a light bulb. Even cleaning these will not get the contaminates off. That little wire gets very hot and if dirt gets on it it will bake to it then this throws off its readings for your computer. If you checked and you have your 5 volt reference for this sensor the only other thing is to replace it. You can get re-manufactured one now at any major parts store. Good luck

  • Jennifer Dyer Jul 10, 2011

    they are really easy to change too they are right on top under the engine cover

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Fig. Fig. 1: ALDL connector-1994 models

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Fig. Fig. 1: Typical Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor wiring diagram (wire color, terminal identification/location may vary on certain models)

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Fig. Fig. 1: Common Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) wiring diagram (wire color, terminal identification/location may vary on certain models)





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You just ruined the sensor...sorry :o(
This time its the dealer or mechanic ($80-200)
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