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My 1997 300 TDI Disco is leaking fuel from the back rear of the injector pump. I don't think its coming form the injector pipe unions. Is it possible to be coming from the torque key bolts?? I pulled one out yesterday and unsuccessfully tried to seal it. Any ideas or advice would be appreciated. I don't want to take the pump out (due to time and money) if I can help it.

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Unless it is from the centre blanking screw,that is removed to set pump timing, there is no quick fix.
Recommend removal & service by a diesel pump specialist, Even my RR specialist would not do this repair in house

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SOURCE: Alarm goes off intermmitantly when the Disco TDI 300, 1997

First check your battery and connections.There are two alarm units , your dealer will be able to read the fault codes and advise you on what to do.I don't think it's wise to expose the security of your vehicle on line.

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SOURCE: my td5 disco has intermittant starting problems

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SOURCE: 1998 land rover discovery won't start

I just expiriance the same problems on my rover so i check it out and found that the engine spark fuse was out. I replaced the said fuse and their you go it started. You can find that fuse under the dashboard in the satellite 1 fuse box. it should be the 3rd one from the right. Good luck buddy hope that helps you out.

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SOURCE: Land Rover disco 2, rear suspension lower

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if the diesel does not start on the starter mtr, are you tow-starting it?
There are a couple of other bits of info required. I say that, because if the engine isn't turning over fast enough on the str mtr then it will not start. If it has got the cranking speed, then the injector pump isn't getting enough fuel to pump to the injectors.

However, that theory is null and void if the engine fires with a 'bump / tow' start

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