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Anonymous Posted on Jul 23, 2010

1983 mercedes 300d power windows will not operate. I there a relay or something i can check? the fuses are good but i cannot measure any voltage at the fuse.

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CHECK POWER WINDOWS RELAYS THEY COULD BE FAULTY.

Testimonial: "I was pretty sure there is a relay somewhere. Just where, I do not know. How do I find it?"

  • Jonah Oneal Jul 24, 2010

    FUSE AND RELAY BOX LOCATED ON THE ENGINE FIREWALL.YOUR FUSE BOX COVER THE LEGEND OR DIAGRAM WILL SHOW YOU FUSE AND RELAYS LOCATION.OR THE OWNERS MANUAL IN GLOVE COMPARTMENT HAS FUSE AND RELAYS LOCATIONS

  • Anonymous Jun 21, 2013

    the owners manual does not have the relay in it and the cover does not show it

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Bad relay more then likely .
Power Window Operation
The power window system operates under the control of the accessory delay relay. The instrument cluster module (ICM) grounds the relay coil to provide power to the power window system & the radio .

Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • All power windows are inoperative
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    • Disconnect: Driver Window Control Switch C504a.
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    No
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