We know the firing order but need to know the correct position for the distributor cap

this is found 2 ways , googled or RTM read the manual service?
I had 99 with that inline 6
yes painful fixing cars others have hacked up,. or left asunder.
amazing facts, in the SM
shows firing order is cast into the intake manifold metal. clear as day, 153624
next is rotor direction needed. is CW clock wise not CCW (counter CW) knowing this HV wires laid down in correct order
next is crank pulley front set to TDC mark 0deg. so that cylinder #1 is at compression top not at exhaust stroke.
as in both head valves closed #1 and #1 is front end.
what is cool in the year car is spark timing can not be adjustable, the dizzy plants down only one way
so finding #1 on the cap is all we need
CKP sensor sets spark timing, and is fixed
the inside DIZZY sensor only does injector timing sync.
not spark. the CKp does that
so the dizzy mount is fixed heard.




jeep SM page. XJ jeeps
sm words distrubed dizzy

1. Remove the No. 1 cylinder spark plug. Turn the engine using a socket wrench on the large bolt on the front of the crankshaft pulley. Place a finger near the No. 1 spark plug hole and turn the crankshaft until the piston reaches Top Dead Center (TDC). As the engine approaches TDC, you will feel air being expelled by the No. 1 cylinder. If the position is not being met, turn the engine another full turn (360 degree). Once the engine's position is correct, install the spark plug.
2. Using a flat-bladed screwdriver, in the distributor hole, rotate the oil pump gear so that the slot in the oil pump shaft is in the correct position.
3. With the distributor cap removed, install the distributor so that the rotor is positioned correctly. Insure that the distributor is fully seated against the cylinder block. If not, remove the distributor and perform the entire procedure again.
4. Tighten the hold-down bolt to 17 ft. lbs. (23 Nm).
5. Install distributor cap and ignition wires. Insure that the wires are routed correctly before attempting to start engine.

see the bold words above, for jeep missing a distributor.
chapter 8D in the jeep manual. cover this.

well that firing order is wrong!
an Opel Kadett 200ie, 1996
no country told and 15 engines used world wide this car.
last one in UK is 1995
so I guess it is not UK?
sold under 11 names world wide.
IN UK it is really a Vauxhall Astra Mk II. badged as Opel. now that is confusing.
not diesel, but petrol AND ALL ARE INLINE 4 BANGER'S.
every car made ,every manual for for them in print tells you 2 answers ( distributors)
1: lost all distrib setting
2: or not lost SETTINGS, Crank not turned.

so read that book it tells you to do this.

SPIN ENGINE TO SEE DISTRIB ROTOR ROTATION CCW OR CW/? (HOLD THAT THOUGHT)
by hand
set crank pulley TO TDC ,-0 DEGREE'S AND BOTH VALVES CLOSED #1 CYLINDER. (CALLED FIRING)#1
CAP OFF. MARK ROTOR #1 TO DISTRIB BODY
THEN CAP ON AND MARK #1 ON CAP.
PUT #1 WIRE TO #1 CAP
AND 1,3,4,2, IN CW OR CCW DIRECTION SEEn ABOVE. at FIRST STEP.

DONE car runs.
if distributor was pulled there are 15 engine answers.

next time on all cars made on earth with HV spark wires
do them 1 at a time. and win.
distribs or any car with HV spark wires seen (sets)

How did you make the determination that all the firing orders are wrong? No matter what the source was, the firing order should be the same no matter who you got the information from. Am I correct on this.....that everybody keeps giving you the same firing order??? As a point of emphasis I would like to know if you recieved conflicting specifications regarding the firing order. You may want verify the calibration of the distributor's position. At TDC the distributor rotor should be pointing to #1 cylinder terminal on the distributor cap, or 90 degrees across from it. Please verify.

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the firing order # is 1342, and the # 1 firing postion on the distributor cap should be at the 5 o clock position on the cap. this is according to the manual that i have. because the rotor turns counter clockwise. if you have any doubt, remove the #1 spark plug , and distributor cap , and bring the # 1 piston up on top dead center of the compression stroke, and the tip of the rotor will be facing the # 1 firing position.

Here is a firing order diagram and note the distributor cap latch positions between terminals 1 and 2 and 5 and 4, and let me know if you need any help to understand this diagram or if you require any further assistance.

FIRING ORDERS

To avoid confusion, ALWAYS replace spark plug wires one at a time.

The most important thing to remember about the removal and installation of a distributor, cap or spark plug cable is that all wires MUST be labelled before they are disconnected. Keep in mind that these figures depict a firing order where the distributor cap terminals are relative to EACH OTHER only and they do not necessarily depict the tower positions in relation to the rest of the engine. This is true because any distributor which has been removed and reinstalled may have been installed with the No. 1 spark plug tower at any position (360 degrees) in relation to the rest of the motor, as long as the rotor aligned to the No. 1 tower when the No. 1 cylinder was at TDC of the compression stroke (valves closed, ready for the plug to fire). As long as the remaining wires were connected in the correct firing order sequence (depending on direction of distributor rotation) the engine will run. DO NOT EVER remove more than one wire from the distributor cap at a time unless you tag ALL wires and towers to assure proper installation.



Fig. 1: 1.9L engine . Firing order: 1-3-4-2 . Distributor rotation: counterclockwise



Fig. 2: 2.0L engine . Firing order: 1-3-4-2 . Distributor rotation: clockwise



Fig. 3: 2.5L engine . Firing order: 1-3-4-2 . Distributor rotation: clockwise



Fig. 4: 2.8L engine . Firing order: 1-2-3-4-5-6 . Distributor rotation: clockwise



Fig. 5: 4.3L engine. Firing order: 1-6-5-4-3-2 . Distributor rotation: clockwise

I hope help you with this (remember rated this help) Good luck.

Hi,
I don't know your engine size, but the link below is a picture of the GM small block firing order with distributor.
The firing order, which should be cast into the intake manifold, for the chevy small block V8 is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. The firing order is the numerical sequence in which the spark plugs are fired. The insertion position of each spark plug wire around the circumference of the distributor cap can be found according to a clock face. The insertion sequence determines the firing order. The firing order is followed clockwise around the distributor cap starting from the 6:30 position with the 6:30 position being the number one cylinder spark plug wire.

http://www.classiccarauto.com/impala/how_to/images/distributor.png

Hope this helps...

Distributor Cap Inspect | Replace The distributor cap should be removed for visual inspection. Check the cap for:



Inspect the distributor cap and rotor. Courtesy of American Honda Motor Co., Inc.

• Distributor cap locating tab. This tab assures proper location of the cap onto the distributor housing.
• Distributor cap holddown. The distributor cap must be securely attached to the distributor housing to prevent contamination and to assure its location.
• Dirt and water in the cap. These contaminants will require additional voltage in order to fire the spark plug. If available voltage is not enough to overcome this resistance then no spark will occur at the spark plug.
• Center carbon insert. All of the high voltage coming through the coil on its way to the spark plug must pass through this insert. Any additional resistance caused by wear or contamination can cause the engine not to start or to misfire.
• Tower inserts. The inserts are made from aluminum or bass so it is possible for them to oxidize. Aluminum oxide is an abrasive that can cause excessive damage to the distributor. If the insert is made from brass then the oxidation will appear green in color.
• Cracks. If any cracks are present on the distributor cap then replacement of the part is required.
• Carbon tracking. Carbon tracking indicates that the high-voltage of electricity has found a low-resistance conductive path over or through the plastic. The result is a cylinder that fires at the wrong time, or a misfire.

Also check for:

• Physical or electrical damage is easily recognizable.
• Electrical damage from high voltage can include corroded or burned metal terminals and carbon tracking inside distributor caps.

Things to look for when inspecting a distributor cap.

• If the distributor cap has a mild buildup of dirt or corrosion, it should be cleaned. If it cannot be cleaned up, it should be replaced. Small round brushes are available to clean cap terminals.
• Wipe the cap and with a clean shop towel, but avoid cleaning these components in solvent or blowing them off with compressed air, which may contain moisture. Cleaning these components with solvent or compressed air may result in high-voltage leaks.
• Check the distributor cap and housing vents. Make sure they are not blocked or clogged. If they are, the internal ignition module will overheat. It is good practice to check these vents whenever a module is replaced.

Replace Distributor cap replacement instructions vary, so always follow the manufacturer's instructions.
General replacement procedures are as follows:

• For spring-loaded caps, unsnap the clips and remove the cap. When installing the new cap, make sure the clips are snapped back into place.
• For spring-loaded j-hook caps, push down and turn. It will unlock. Lift up to remove it. Position the new cap in place, then push down and turn to lock.
• For caps with screws, use a screwdriver to loosen the two screws. Install the new cap and use the screwdriver to tighten the screws. Don't overtighten.

It is a good idea when replacing the distributor cap to remove the cap with the ignition wires attached. After you have installed the new cap, transfer the wires one by one onto the cap in their correct position. This way the firing order is accurate. If, for some reason after you replace the distributor cap, your vehicle does not function normally, check your firing sequence.
The distributor cap is mounted on top of the distributor assembly and an alignment notch in the cap fits over a matching lug on the housing. Therefore the cap can only be installed in one position, which assures the correct firing sequence. There is a tab or notch somewhere on the distributor body that must align somewhere on the distributor body that must align with a corresponding tab or notch in the cap. Once again, do not force something.
The rotor should be inspected and/or replaced when the distributor cap is replaced.

Firing Order Each cylinder of an engine must produce power once in every 720 degrees of crankshaft rotation. Each cylinder must have a power stroke at its own appropriate time during the rotation. To make this possible, the pistons and rods are arranged in a precise fashion. This is called the engine's firing order. The firing order is arranged to reduce rocking and imbalance problems. Because the potential for this rocking is determined by the design and construction of the engine, the firing order varies from engine to engine. Vehicle manufacturers simplify cylinder identification by numbering each cylinder.



Examples of typical firing order.
Regardless of the particular firing order used, the #1 cylinder always starts the firing order, with the rest of the cylinders following in a fixed sequence. The ignition system must be able to monitor the rotation of the crankshaft and the relative position of each piston to determine which piston is on its compression stroke. It must also be able to deliver a high-voltage surge to each cylinder at the proper time during its compression stroke. How the ignition system does these things depends on the design of the system.