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I replaced the starter motor. Now when I try to start it, it won't do nothing. No crank no start. Even the dashboard has no signal. Battery checks out and cables okay.. Is it the starter relay? Where is the starter relay location? Regards Ernst Gfeller Garden City, MI

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The starter relay is usually attached to the starter, this is where the cables are connected to.
If the dash has no power, there is either a wire not back in place , or it may have tripped a breaker on the positive cable if it has one.

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