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Heating and cooling system leak under intake manifold. I cannot see the heater hoses without removing the intake manifold. What should I be looking for, this is a major leak.Thanks, Eric

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You are not going to know for sure until you pull the manifold, but should be a easy fix, will be either the round welsh plugs, a corroded steel tube , or hose and clamp.
With the manifold off, a pressure test will squirt the coolant out , if it isnt immediately obvious where the leak is

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Does anybody have a video link on how to flush the cooling system on a GM 3.1L SFI OHV 6cyl motor? I need a vid for this particular motor cause mine is still overheating & i have looked everywhere.

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Intake Manifold gasket replacement and/or leaking= Ford

Intake Manifold gasket~

Replacing intake manifold gasket:
Replacing the intake manifold gasket, I used the tube kind, it's a make it youself for about $6 (it's blue and the consistancy of toothpaste) follow directions carefully! You can get a tube at Autozone or any car parts store. Has been working great. Just ask the cashier for the make it yourself kind of intake manifold gasket. Sorry, I don't remember the name of it, it's been that long...lol...

As for the Intake Manifold leaking coolant....It could, but shouldn't. One of the largest problems I've seen for coolant to leak out the Intake Manifold has been due to pressure in the system somewhere... Check the classic area:
Water pump- look for either water seapage and/or coolant. You'll know if it is because you will see real water either coming out of the water pump leak hole or under the thermostat. Most of the time coolant will pool where your heater hose runs in the intake manifold.

Mentioning heater hose. Check for leaks, holes, and/or cracked heater hoses. In-addition to the water pump, heater hoses...Check the transmission system, exhaust system, fuel system, radiator system, A/C system, secondary fan (located above the water pump housing), and thermostat.Also, check all electrical connections....Hummm....This is almost the entire workings of the vehicle.

NOTE: "It seems to be an infinity kinda thing... Once one thing starts to fail and is ignored, you are bound to be fixing a chain of event failures. Therefore, Do not ignore even the smallest problem or you'll be bound for life in repairs...."
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I need to see a coolant system hose that leaks does the intake have to be removed

Yes there are cooling system hoses under the intake, here are instructions to remove the intake.

Instructions
  1. Remove the Intake Manifold
    • 1Drain the cooling system and relieve the pressure in the fuel system. Disconnect the negative battery cable, the air intake duct, the IAC valve connectors, the throttle position sensor and switch connectors, and the EGR solenoid valve.
    • 2Pull the EVAP canister vacuum and purge hoses, the vacuum hoses from the EVAP, the brake cylinder, pressure regulator and EGR tube. Tag and disconnect the spark plug wires. Remove the distributor cap.
    • 3. Take out the three left bank injector connectors, the thermal transmitter, the ground harness, breather pipe and the upper manifold. Disconnect the fuel feed and return lines and plug them with golf tees to prevent fuel spillage.
    • 4Locate the right injector harness connectors and disconnect them as well as the fuel rail and injectors. Remove the coolant temperature switch harness connector and the water hose from the thermostat.
    • 5Loose the bolts on the lower manifold in sequence. Remove the bolts and left the intake manifold from the engine. Remove the gasket and discard it.
    • 6Clean the mating surfaces by scraping the old gasket material and carbon deposits. Clean the surfaces with solvent and inspect them for damage.
    Install the Intake Manifold
    • 7Put a new gasket in place and install the lower intake manifold to the engine. Tighten the bolts in sequence as follows: first pass-35 inch pounds; second pass-78 inch pounds and third pass 70 to 84 inch pounds.
    • 8Connect the ECT sensor connector, the fuel supply manifold and the right bank injector connectors. Connect the fuel lines and then install the upper intake manifold. Put the breather pipe in position.
    • 9Install the intake manifold ground cable, the thermal transmitter, the left bank injector connectors and the distributor. Reconnect the spark plug wires.
    • 10Continue reconnecting all the components, reversing the order in which they were removed. Connect the negative battery cable to the terminal. Refill the cooling system with the appropriate coolant.
    • 11Start the engine. Check for fuel or vacuum leaks.
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Where are all the freeze plug located on 4.6 w/auto. is there one between the block & transmission

Yes, there are expansion plugs (freeze plugs) on both sides of the engine block and at the rear of the engine block between the engine and transmission. There are also a couple in the ends of the cylinder heads.

With all that said, I would like to add that many times with that engine, the heater tube and connecting hoses can leak and be mistaken for a rear expansion plug leaking. I would definately check this before pulling the transmission out.

There is a tube that runs from the back of the water pump under the intake manifold and out the rear of the engine where it hooks up to the heater hose/heater core. This tube has a small hose connecting it to the back of the water pump. There is also a hole in the back of the engine block that will allow antifreeze from under the intake manifold to leak into the transmission bell housing area. When this tube or hose leaks, it often gets mistaken for a leaking rear expansion plug.

It is very easy to check for this. Remove the serpentine belt and remove the alternator and look under the intake manifold down in the "valley" between the cylinder heads. If there is antifreeze in there, the hose or the tube is leaking. Look at the picture below. Item #3 is the tube and hose assembly I am talking about. Usually, just the hose is leaking. It should be replaced with a short piece of SILICONE heater hose. On some of the vehicles, there are 2 hose clamps. On others, the end of the hose that is attached to the tube has a crimped collar on it. If yours is like this, you can fix it by carefully cutting the crimp collar off and replacing the hose using band clamps. (screw-type)

Also look for antifreeze leaking into this area from the front intake manifold runner. They tend to leak on the front runner near where the thermostat housing is located. These will also leak into the valley area and run out the back of the engine. If the manifold is leaking, chances are it is warped. DORMAN makes a replacement intake manifold kit just for this purpose because it has been so common. It is also very easy to check for this with the alternator removed.
The DORMAN part number for your vehicle is 615-178 (See second picture below)


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93 Grand Marquis 4.6L. last week i replasted heater core in the car due to the OE core leaking under my dash. after that i half-assed flushed the coolant system with fresh water and put fresh anitfreeze in...

I dont believe the intake manifold has to come off to replace this hose, i believe the water pump will have to be removed and then you should be able to access that hose. As far as the thermostat issue, i would recommend replacing it, especially after flushing the cooling system. Also check the water pump when you remove it and make sure it is functioning properly (all the fins on the inpeller are intact, if you can see them).

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My 1998 jimmy has always leaked antifreeze but the last month it has got bad to were i have to fill it up everyday

You need to get or rent a coolant system tester and identify where it is leaking from. They are very simple to use. You just remove your radiator cap and install the tester and pump up the cooling system and then you watch for where the coolant is coming from. Look closely at your water pump, intake manifold gasket, radiator, heater hose coupler on the intake manifold, and coolant hoses. Those are all the common leak areas.
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INTERNAL COOLANT LEAKS
There are the worst kind of coolant leaks for two reasons. One is that they are impossible to see because they are hidden inside the engine. The other is that internal coolant leaks can be very expensive to repair.


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Hose that attaches to back of thermostat housing is leaking

The hose is a cooling by-pass hose. It makes a big horseshoe and attaches under the front of the intake maniold. I think that if you have small hands and a lot of patience you can likely replace it without haveing to take half the engine apart. (You have to pull the head to pull the intake manifold).
I think if you remove the battery, and have a small bright light you will be able to see where if attaches under the front of the intake manifold. Advance auto sells the by -pass hose for
around $12.00 I think.

Becare if you are probing around there are way too many vaccum lines under the manifold.
If they come off and you don't know where to put them -- you are in deep kim chee. I know I am
in super deep Kim chee now.

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