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Valve timming did timming chain and intake valve nicking piston ? i put gold marks on chain to marks on gears.but like i said i did this thrre times and the right head ,the intake valves are just nicking the pistons ?

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Possibly you are 180 degrees off.
the timing marks are dimples on the gears to align up.
paint will be no use at all to use and have never heard of anyone using paint .
use paint on a crack balancer for the timing mark ony

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