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1999 GMC Envoy: replaced both GE 3057 lamps in left rear light assembly. Lamps both light. However depressing brake pedal does not initiate brake light. The righ rear brake light does work. The high mount brake light does not. Replaced fuses wit new fuses. Circuit tests all indicate no circuit problems, lose connections, shorts or ground loops. Is the hign mount brake light standard type lamp or is it LED type?

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The high mount brake light has its own fuse, so check that first. The high mount bulb is generally a stabdard type (there may be more than one bulb) or you can replace with an LED. As for the left rear bulbs not working when depressing brake pedal, check the bulbs again for any spring that may be broken. If the bulbs are still good, make sure there is sufficient contact with the socket. If still not working, have someone check it out further.

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