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Power Seats System Description and Operation
Power Seat System Operation
There are 2 options of power seat systems available in full size trucks. The 6 way driver and passenger power seats, and 8 way driver and passenger power seats with driver memory. For the driver memory seat operation refer to Memory Seats Description and Operation . Power seats without memory are completely controlled through the power seat switch. Battery voltage is supplied to the power seat switch through the power seat circuit breaker. While the seat adjuster switches are in an inactive state the switch contacts are closed to the power seat switch ground circuit. When a power seat switch is pressed to an active state the switch contact is closed to the battery voltage supply circuit. Each seat adjuster motor is controlled by the power seat switch through 2 motor control circuits. The seat adjuster motors are bidirectional and the direction of adjuster motor rotation is determined by which of the adjuster motor control circuits is switched to battery voltage while the other remains grounded.
( I'm not good at wiring an running an ohm meter.) well then you need to take it to a qualified repair shop.
Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop.
The heated seat system consists of the following components:
• Driver and passenger heated seat switches
• Driver and passenger seat back heater elements
• Driver and passenger seat cushion heater elements
• Driver and passenger seat back temperature sensors
• Driver seat module
• Driver door module
• Passenger door module
Do you know what a electronic module is ?
DTC B2425 or B2430
Circuit Description
The driver and passenger seat heaters are controlled by the driver seat module. Power is supplied to the driver seat cushion and back heater elements through individual voltage supply circuits. Power is supplied to the passenger seat cushion and back heater elements through a common voltage supply circuit. All of the driver and passenger seat heater elements are grounded by the driver seat module through individual low side drive control circuits. The heater element control circuits are pulse width modulated to ground by the driver seat module in order to control the seat temperatures by regulating the current flow through the heater elements.
DTC Descriptors
This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTCs:
• DTC B2425 Driver Seat Heater Circuit
• DTC B2430 Passenger Seat Heater Circuit
Do you know what a DTC - diagnostic trouble code is.
Heated Seat Components
The heated seat system consists of the following components:
• Driver and passenger heated seat switches
• Driver and passenger seat back heater elements
• Driver and passenger seat cushion heater elements
• Driver and passenger seat back temperature sensors
• Driver seat module
• Driver door module
• Passenger door module
When there are modules involved in the operation of any componet that's acting up , the module's electronic's could be the culprit ! But without testing who's to say what the problem could be !
I would have it check for DTC'S
DTC B2425 or B2430
The driver and passenger seat heaters are controlled by the driver seat module. Power is supplied to the driver seat cushion and back heater elements through individual voltage supply circuits. Power is supplied to the passenger seat cushion and back heater elements through a common voltage supply circuit. All of the driver and passenger seat heater elements are grounded by the driver seat module through individual low side drive control circuits. The heater element control circuits are pulse width modulated to ground by the driver seat module in order to control the seat temperatures by regulating the current flow through the heater elements.
DTC B2435 or B2440
The driver seat module relies on inputs from thermistors installed in the driver and passenger seat backs to control heated seat temperatures. The thermistors are 2-wire sensors supplied with a 5-volt referenced signal circuit and low reference circuit from the driver seat module. Resistance through the thermistors varies with temperature causing the heated seat sensor signal circuit voltage levels to decrease as the seat back temperatures rise.
Install a scan tool.
Start the engine.
Turn the heated seat ON.
With a scan tool, observe the Heated Seat Sensor parameter in the data list for the driver seat module.
Does the scan tool indicate that the heated seat sensor parameter is within the specified range?
0.078-4.94 V
Replace the fuse with one the same rating. If the seat now works.... smile. If the new fuse blows or the heat does not work you may have a short (or a broken wire) inside the seat that's causing the problem. It's an 11 year old seat.... tearing it apart to find the source may not be worth it.
I would check the wire harness under the seat and make sure they are clear of the seat tracks. Next make sure the plug ins under the seat are tight. If only the driver seat is shutting off may be heat element has gone bad.If both are doing it(passenger and driver) there is probably a module that controls them and that has gone bad.
Check wiring under the seat. Frequent habit of pushing things under the seat such as flashlights and tools etc and moving the seat forward and back sometimes pulls wires or breaks them.
Mine did that forever, but started working after the instrument cluster was replaced. It started to show 100 mph in a parking lot. Dealer replaced it for free, and now every little quirk seems to have disappeared, including the heated seats. They are very nice lately. Damn cold here.
The controller could be bad but I would probe the related wiring first. From your symptoms it sounds like something can not handle the electrical load. You turn the F/R seat heater on but then you turn on the F/L and the whole system fails. It does sound like the source of the problem will be under the drivers seat. Testing needs to be performed to confirm and identify the source. Both seats share the same fuse and ground. This circuit may have a damaged wire or connector somewhere. Inspect and test as much as you can. Also look underneath the seats for anything. Customers are not aware that personal belongings and trash get pushed underneath the seats and will damage wiring. Also excessively moving the seat forward and back will weaken the harness over time. Please write back and let me know what you need. If it is more diagnostic information or suggestions just let me know. Good Luck
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