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Anonymous Posted on Jan 16, 2010

Transmission is not operating correctly when cold. The RPM's are above normal operating levels prior to shifting. After the vehicle travels a couple of miles, all is fine. Normal operational RPM's are around 2000 at 70 MPH. Now it is 2500 RPM's. Had the catalytic converter changed out about 6 months as well as the solenoids for shifting. I put an OASIS computer on it but could not find anything out the ordinary. I'm thinking the converter may be going out again.

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The PCM is allowing torque converter slippage until the transmission reaches normal operating temperature because cold transmission fluid is a drag on the engine and causes it to burn more fuel.

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