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1996 Isuzu Rodeo won start. 2.6L 4cyl. Not getting fire. Have replaced distributor, ICM, Crankshaft Position sensor, ECM/PCM. Fuel pump not bad, but no noise when trying to start. Any suggestions what to check next?

  • spurlingkd Oct 23, 2009

    I looked at the pic--I did change this--I called it the Ignition control module (ICM)--no change. Any other suggestions?

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Under the intake manifold there is a ignition coil power switch that you might try . See http://www.myisuzuparts.com/showparts.php fig no. 0-60 image number 4 item 352

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