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Seat will not move forward or backward...

Worked fine, then slowly began to die...now won't move at all forward or backward...back and lumbar still ok...passenger ok...for now!
also, lights in dash have started to die in a non-uniform manner...

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If motor seemed to slowly get worse over time then there is a great chance that the motor is gone. You will have to unplug the motor and test for power at the motors connector. if the power is good when switch is activated then the motor is dead, but if no power is found then you either have a bad switch or connector or a wiring harness problem. It will not be the fuses since the driver and passenger seats are the same. also one more thing to check is if your vehicle has memory seats then if no power is found at motor, this memory module mounted to seat could be the problem..

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