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Have 2002 envoy we've changed the pump, nothing then I discovered that there is no power getting to the fuel pump relay w/ key on or off or cranking??

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A relay needs two power sources in order to work as it consists of a coil and a switch and in many cases some electronics.
There is generally a supply for the switch that when the coil is energised switches on and supplies the fuel pump.
Traditionally the coil has a permanent ground and a switched supply. Early vehicles usually energised as soon as the ignition was switched on but as increasing amounts of electronics found a way into vehicles the coil was firstly energised via some clever internal electronics and later by the engine management computer.
These days of digital electronics the tendency would be to make the energising power permanent and for the coil ground to be controlled by the engine ECU and in this case the relay could share a common supply.
When troubleshooting such a circuit it is important to understand the circuit you are testing, especially as the fuel pump relay could be supplied with power by a main ignition relay and almost certainly the vehicle immobiliser will act on some of these circuits.
Ensure the fuses are all ok and the immobiliser is disarming properly and then go no further without a wiring diagram...

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