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My exterior temperature digital readout stays at 50 deg. at all times. not a biggie, but i miss this feature.

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Get an ambient temp sensor and install it, its located on the driverside front of the vehicle near the radiator, that should fix the issue. the sensor is fairly cheap if i remember correctly

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Engine is running. Engine coolant temperature is higher than 50 Deg C (122 deg F). Intake Air Temperature (IAT) is higher than 35 deg C (95 deg F). Engine soak time is higher than 360 minutes, or start-up coolant temperature is less than 45 deg C (113 deg F). Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor reading is greater than 107 deg C (224.6 deg F).
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