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TCL and Anti Lock brake light come on when sitting over night and when I drive it for a short distance the and shut the engine off and restart most of the time they stay off.This has been happening ever since I first pruchased the car new in 04. The service shop never can find anything wrong what is up with this?

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Interesting problem, especially since its been happening since the car was new. Researching this I found one suggestion that a front wheel bearing is in backwards, and this causes the ABS wheel sensor to read incorrectly until the TCL/ABS computers calibrate themselves.

This is an odd suggestion, as the wheel bearing and hub are an integral assembly. A part photo shows a "normal" looking bearing that only fits one way. A bearing installation problem is not impossible however. There could be dirt/road debris on the sensor, the sensor could be slightly misplaced, or faulty. The TCL/ABS computers read the signals from the wheel sensors, and has diagnostic outputs, which should include indications of poor or missing data streams from all four wheel sensors.

This is the first step to finding a solution. If the TCL/ABS computers are reporting errors from one wheel, then that wheel has to be disassembled to see what's the cause.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 30, 2009

SOURCE: won't start after driving short distance

I would check any recalls.   I had a 2000 Nissan Sentra and the crankshaft position sensor was the problem.  It may be a warranty replacement item.
see this
http://nhthqnwws112.odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/docservlet/Artemis/Public/Recalls/2007/V/RCDNN-07V527-8115.pdf

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 07, 2009

SOURCE: ABS and TCL light trouble light comes on after

It appears that there may be moisture getting into one of the sensors tied in to your abs sensor or your tcl sensor. It's usually not recommended to be driving when the abs light is on because it can indicate a failure and it may not work when you do some abrupt braking

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 25, 2009

SOURCE: 3 times in the last 4 weeks when I start my car

then i would say take it back to them as the guy was blind or nuts,,, there is some thing wrong with it, read the computer coads again

JIMMY

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2010

SOURCE: I have replaced all 4 wheel speed sensors in my

You have to check to see if the modules these two systems report to is getting their signal. Your gonna need the shop manual for this and do what it tells you to do with this regards.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 25, 2010

SOURCE: Nissan will start fine but after driving short

remember to always start with you basics check for fuel and spark. Sounds like you have an electronic component braking down. By determining which of the two is not present( spark or fuel) you will then know which route to persuse the problem

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