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I want to install a anti theft switch I have a 2003 wrangler standard trans I have a couple of options off the fuel pump or the clutch switch which would be better?

If the fuel pump is the best one there are 4 wires 2 blacks a green/white and a blue /white which goes to the pump

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Stick shift is not standard
a/t is 90% now and is the standard. sure old skool jargon,.
ive done this for over 50 years.
on modern cars have a hidden well fuel pump power switch.
better only matters in the HIDE word(and safety)
they can steal any car, wenched up to any tilt flat bad.
on distrib cars,id go on a very long job field trips
and pull the distributor rotor'

the ways are

  1. fuel pump sw
  2. spark sw
  3. battery disconnect switch and hood locks.
  4. sure starter kill but I can push start mine and hill gravity start it.

the pump kill wins,,because no flooding and fires,
if you kill spark the bad guys then flood engine, can be horrid flood of raw fuel. dripping from exhaust ports.
pump is
win win.

i have super super hidden switch,magnetic,
no man can find ,short of total car take down;l!!
its a key with magnet inside, and hidden hole in carpet/body,
if only needed for long trips in parking lot
even more hidden, is ok.
just pretend you bad guy and he will find a more easy car.
and give up.
even a lashing led in car scares them.
and an extra hood lock so horns can not be silenced or battery cables jerked.
keep in mind, step 1 of thieves is to break the side window
and pop hood.
key to cure is hood locks real.
one car of mine the A$$, ripped whole dash off car in minutes
dang.

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On my '97 Camaro, the first thing I hear when turning the ignition key is the fuel pump run and the fuel rail pressure up. .
First thought is, manual cars must have clutch depressed and auto cars in Park or Neutral to enable cranking. If these inhibit switches are faulty then that could be your problem. Had an old 5-speed manula Pontiac Fiero with a faulty inhibit switch. I just bypassed the switch with a piece of jumper wire. Just had to remember to ensure car was in neutral when starting!!
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