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Sonja Bendickson Oswald Posted on Dec 13, 2016
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2004 Ram 2500 starts, low idle 400 rpm and stalls, any ideas?

Hello! I have a 2004 Ram 2500 with a fresh top half rebuild; new pistons, rods, valves, springs, throttle body, map sensor and she will start but will only idle at 400rpm roughly then stalls out without hesitation! Water has been seen coming from tailpipe as well! Please help!

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New throttle should be set screw bring up to 700rpm.

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With out see it running on a scanner. Maybe the IAC or throttle body. Does it have any codes. Did you erase codes after rebuild? Any time I do a rebuild on engines and transmission, the codes have to to erased. Other wise you are trying to run a new part on old PCM codes. Codes have to be erased.

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  • Sonja Bendickson Oswald

    Already replace throttle body! Have not taken to echanic for computer reset however, we did take out the pcm and disconnected the battery! It does not throw any codes either!

  • Randy Ohler Dec 15, 2016

    Did you replace the computer? Is it a drive by wire/electronic throttle. Can you drive it with the throttle open, Giving it gas? Electronic throttles have a learn process, with a rebuild it also has a crank learn process. If you replaced the computer it has security( does the light stay on or blink fast). It starts up so ignition isn't the problem. But it could be fuel, check fuel pressure. One other thing is, are all the grounds connected.

  • Sonja Bendickson Oswald

    Did not replace computer! Would that throw a code? Can't drive it at all, it stalls out when foot not on gas pedal! No lights are on throwing codes at all! All grounds have been checked and rechecked! How do we get the learn process complete if she won't drive down the road?

  • Randy Ohler Dec 15, 2016

    When you start it, does it only run about 2 seconds? if so look to security. Dodges can be reset by locking all doors and the hood. Use the key FOB to open or open the drivers side door with the key. When it does run, does run smooth or rough/stumble? Might want to check fuel pressure. When I do rebuilds, I double and triple check certain areas. Especially timing.

  • Sonja Bendickson Oswald

    New timing chain going on today! Looking for a pressure gauge too! Runs rough at idle, when she will idle! Foot on the pedal seems to run smoother!

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There could be a couple of problems causing the issue. You could have an oil pressure pump or pump pressure regulator sticking. I would have a mechanical oil pressure gauge installed and verify oil pressure at idle and 2500 rpms to make sure oil pressure is in normal ranges.
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