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Cranking but not starting until second try.gas smell.Gas line replaced.Had spark plugs, fuel filter changed.Still having starting issues and today noticed leakage near gas tank.

This is the sedan model, H6 3.0

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Gas line was only repaired, not replaced. I don't repair gas lines because of this problem. The entire line is replaced, both of them, supply and return. From the tank to the injector rail. This is the reason for the long start. Loose of fuel pressure.

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