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Hi there my name is Brandon I am a electronic and mechanical engineering technician I am the man that mechanics bring cars too when they cant fix them or cant find the electric problem I am a 4 generation mechanic and have help 10 thousand or more people who are like you don't know what is problem or don't know how to fix it !!! It could be the switch or the switching door to it

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