Used cig. lighter, all guage's went down. lost all control on the blower control switch panel, drove home unhooked pos.cable on batt. the next morning the 40 ign.3 40 amp fuse in the block under the hood was blown, replaced and the blower motor runs continuously, seemed that the fan cooling motor came on as well and the car had not run. after replacing the fuse the car would not start, did some searching under the dash with no success and tried again the car now starts without the 40 amp ing. j fuse plugged in. but will not start when plugged in. Thanks Stephen for your comments. I have described my progress the last couple days, thru the comments section as I just realized how to update the here. I have found the problem and encourage anyone who is confronted with the problem of a continuously running blower motor and/or random electrical oddities ie: gauges wig out, fuses short frequently, look for a short in the harness above the glove box. I have seen enough incidents documented on this happening seems reasonable there is yet another enginering mishap with the placement of this harness.
Sounds more like a key switch or fuse box problem.
The circuits you mentioned would be on separate fuses but could be connected to the key switch. The relays are grounded by the engine computer to be energized.
Testimonial: "thanks for the input, that could certainly be the area of concern, while working thru this i discovered something unusual. moving the wire harness assoc. with these items, cig. ltr., blwr mtr, etc. under the dash I would hear the cooling fan or fans come on and go off, also the door lock on the passenger side would lock and unlock as i pulled and pushed this wire harness, with some force yet not enough to damage or enhance the condition. It was after this that the vehicle started on my next attempt. I have just discovered the # 28 10amp fuse in the center consol is blown. Not sure when this happened. On my way to the 10 amp store now, will post with results after replacing this fuse/ DOUBLE THANKS to everyone that offers any input. If you have ever had an issue of this nature you well know my situation and every word of advice is and will be appreciated!"
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check blower motor regulator for moisture and corrosion on connectors
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I'd say that your blower motor resistor has shorted internaly.
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You replaced the blower control module or the blower control panel on the dash? This has automatic temp control right?
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THE FAN BLOWER RELAY IN STUCK CLOSE POSITION.YOU HAVE TO REPLACE FAN BLOWER RELAY.
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my car is doing the exact same thing. these cars have a tendancy to jump time. the best way to check is to pull ur plugs and turn the motor over by hand till the #1 cylinder(front left side of engine) is up. u tell if its up by putting a screwdriver or something in the hole. then go to ur distributer and see if the rotor tip is on the #1 spot on the cap. if not the timing is off.
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as i stated earlier, after discovering and relacing the #28/10ampaccfuse in the inside block, i got a no crank/no start. Pulled that fuse out and started/ran with no problem, obviously without the #47/40amp jfuse in the hood block i have nothing in the way of heat,defraust,etc. this is not acceptable due to safety of course not to mention the 30 degree temp.around here.
started cking. relays, discovered the #32/25amp fuse in hood block was burned, replaced - no start/no crank at this point. Only one relay appeared to have a problem #52 AC/CLU 4 pin relay was stuck open until i reversed power from pin 86 to 85, contact tripped and clicking was then heard both with power in to 86, and in to 85.
update 11-23, fyi there was resistance in both 85 and 86 as well in ref. to my last comment.
I have now ckd. all relays in both fuse boxes as I have yet to find a diagram that is free and complete enough to find any detail at length for the hard wire end of things.
However I did discover there is no constant hot/feed to the #23 Ign3 relay (pin set) in the main fuse block / passenger side console, the relay cks. good, no power on either 30 or 87 pin slot.
I use repair info from AutoZone's website. If you register (free) you can access their data base which would have some/most of the wiring diagrams for your truck. You may end up having to buy a used shop manual from Ebay to get all of the diagrams.
The people who answer questions here on Fixya are volunteers and don't usually have access to factory shop manuals.
Quit snowing so figured I would proceed with another look into the wiring harness issue where I heard a couple items engage when I tugged on it after initial no start result...
After hearing what sounded very similar to a relay somewhere up tight under the dash in the darkness between the passenger airbag and the glovebox compartment or where it would have been as I pulled it to access the blower and resistor prior. Laying on my back face up on the passenger side floor board looking approx. where the latch for the box would be located I moved the main wire harness and wittnessed a very notable crack followed by a splash of spark that exposed thru closer examination a bundle of melted plastic surrounding more than a few copper strands of wire blended with an unknown number of others within the harness ending my search for the answer to my question " Can blower motor, cig. lighter, fan cooling motor, door locks all be tied into the blower motor relay faulting out?"
Answer: You know they can... if somehow pinched squeezed smashed rubbed or in some form altered to allow the wires to touch causing a short!!
I will follow up with info on the repair and results later. Meantime, if your blower motor runs without power in your 2001 Aztek and the proceeding has not helped, I strongly encourage looking in this area for this same problem!!
If you are checking the relay itself, 85 and 86 are usually the terminals for the magnet that closes the connection between 30 and 87. So it should have resistance. One terminal gets power and the other gets ground from the engine computer or another source. Then you have power on 30 or 87 and the fourth terminal goes to the component you are powering. So if you are checking the female terminals, you have two power, one ground, and one to the component.
thanks for the input, having a bit of difficulty following the whole set up here on fixya, no one sure distinct procedure to get to my question, add or update info in an efficient manne??? not giving up though, seems this could be an excellent source for a whole lot of shade trees as well as the pros!!
ok, fyi stephen your help is greatly appreciated regardless of what might be voted on.
I found the problem, it had nothing at all to do with any parts, fuses, relays, connections etc.
The source of all this wackiness in the 2001 aztek is and has been for some time based on the evident physical destruction of the wire cluster a major damage of the protective coating around more than a couple wires running from the underhood fuseblock.
glove box, fuseblock access cover and control modules in center console have been removed.
The silver rounded item is the airbag housing
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