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Joe Turner Posted on Nov 06, 2015
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I checked the wire to starter solenoid and have no power with key on!

Power going out but not making it to the solenoid on starter

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There is probably a starter relay in the under hood fuse / relay box. When you turn the key to start on newer vehicles that power signal isn't going to the solenoid . It's an input to a control module . BCM , PCM etc... Then the PCM energizes the relay closing the contacts sending voltage to the starter . What year , make an model vehicle ? Do you know what a relay is ?

Testimonial: "I switched the relays around and still same thing I ran a wire from solenoid to hot and it starts up but cant crawl under there everytime i Go somewhere"

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  • Jeff Armer Nov 06, 2015

    You can jump start from the relay , no need to crawl under there . Pull the relay out of it's spot in the fuse/ relay box . Look at the bottom of the relay ,you will see four numbers , 85,86 , 87, 30 . If you take a piece of wire an jump 87 an 30 the starter will crank over , provided pin 30 has battery voltage .

  • Jeff Armer Nov 06, 2015

    You can test with a test light , two should have B+ 30 & 85 I think or 86 , don't remember off the top of my head . You could go on youtube an check out a few videos on this. No crank no start

  • Joe Turner
    Joe Turner Nov 09, 2015

    I replaced the starter relay n nothing still what would keep it from starting I jumped it with gator clip in the plug on the solenoid to the hot on the starter it cranked but it won't crank anymore! I checked the wiring harness under the dash n it has power till I try to start it! Then the test light goes out any suggestions?

  • Jeff Armer Nov 09, 2015

    Ignition switch, maybe . Here watch this video , mite give you some direction . https://youtu.be/6rWrRzzZ_3s

  • Joe Turner
    Joe Turner Nov 12, 2015

    I replaced the ignition switch and put a brand new relay in still not getting power to solenoid is there a fusable link for the ignition switch to the solenoid

  • Jeff Armer Nov 13, 2015

    What make vehicle is this ? model an year too ?

  • Joe Turner
    Joe Turner Nov 13, 2015

    Chevrolet Impala 2007

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May not help, but, with power issues, the first place I'm gonna check is the fuse box...

Testimonial: "Ive checked all fuses under hood and passenger compartment and all were good!I have power at the switch area but not going into the solenoid to engage the starter I used a jumper and it starts when attaching it to the hot on the starter but no power at where it plugs into the solenoid!"

  • Joe Turner
    Joe Turner Nov 09, 2015

    I checked all the fuses n they are all good! I replaced the starter relay n nothing! I checked the wiring harness under the dash n it has power till I try to start then test light goes out! Any suggestions?

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Do you have a voltmeter and know how to use one? That is the only way you can go about testing. You also need a helper to cycle the key while you are checking for power at the starter solenoid.
You see, the problem could be anywhere in the starting circuit, from the ignition switch to the starter solenoid, and it could be a bad part or a bad connection. So you start at the end-which is the starter solenoid, mounted on the starter motor.
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