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Anonymous Posted on Mar 17, 2015

MY Hyundai Veracruz engine (3.8L) idle too low (600 Rpm) in cold weather (less than 40F), when engine is warm and transmission on drive and vehicule stop. This cause a undesirable vibration. When outside tmeperature is more then around 40F it is ok (RPM is 750). When transmission is on Park it is always ok. Any suggestion on cause?

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It may be no engine thermostat which keeps the engine temperature at a constant 180F usually. Or you have some bad connections to a temperature sensor that sends temperature information to the Ecu (brain) and controls fuel. Corrosion causes
bad connections If you have an auto parts store scan your error codes that will be a better diagnostic. It is possible a problem with transmission fluid level or quality of fluid.

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Hi I drive a 2006 corrolla with 70,000 miles. I noticed the idle slowly but surely gettin a litttle rough and lower. This only starts to happen after I have been driving for about 5 min. It usually happens...

It's been almost 2 years since you posted the question so it's likely you will not see my answer to your question.

First, do NOT make any adjustments to your throttle body idle setting. The screw most likely never budged since 2006 so you should not touch it since this is not the root cause. But yes it is wise to check all vacuum lines as "craig" suggested.

I have a 2007 Corolla CE, 1.8 liter VVT engine, 5 speed manual transmission which I bought new from the dealer. Currently has about 108k miles on it. After about 4 or 5 years in cool to cold weather it started doing the same thing. I researched it online then asked my local Advance Auto Parts person who confirmed my hunch. It is known as "idle hunting" when the engine is cold, in colder outside temperatures the idle rpm's will increase up to roughly 2000 rpm then drop to idle, then back to 2000 rpm, then repeats multiple times. Then after driving a short distance, stopping and running at idle, the idle speed may drop to 600 or 500 or as low as 400 rpm, running quite roughly but still keeps running. My Corolla normally idles smoothly and steadily at 800 rpm when warm or hot. The idle hunting or low idle rpm will typically correct itself when the engine warms up enough.

The problem: the intake manifold gasket has aged and shrunk a bit, allowing engine compartment air to get pulled directly past the gasket and into the cylinder head intake port. This causes an imbalance between the reduced air filter airflow sensed by the Mass AirFlow (MAF) sensor versus the actual air/fuel ratio versus the engine rpm versus the oxygen level in the exhaust stream. The gasket will shrink more as the temperature under the hood drops, allowing more air to flow past the gasket. The Engine Control Unit (ECU) is simply trying to do its job as programmed by increasing fuel delivery to compensate for the overall imbalance, then when rpm's get too high it will reduce fuel delivery.

The solution: purchase a new intake manifold gasket for roughly $10 to replace the stock gasket. Mine is a thin orange polymer gasket with round cross-section which seals around all 4 intake ports. You can search for instructional video of how to install it on YouTube.

I purchased one but did not install it yet. I am sure this will resolve the problem since all other suggested fixes I found on the internet did nothing but unnecessarily frustrate the owners.
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READ THIS (happy ending so far...):
audi a4 2L turbo quattro, manual transmission with 98,000 KM. Perfect conditions, no oil leaks whatsoever.

Left the car off for two weeks in very cold weather (-10C down to -25C). When I restarted, it started immediately but with heavy rattling noise due to camshaft adjuster not getting enough oil pressure. After 3 minutes of warming up (outside temp.: -12C) at very low rpm (below 2,000rpm), I start moving the car. Still hearing heavy rattle noise. As soon as I pass 2,000 rpm, I get a scary red warning, low oil pressure. Turn off the engine immediately. In 1 minute, I re-start the car and the engine lights check ok, so I drive in first gear super slow (1,200rpm) hearing the same rattling noise. After another minute, finally the noise all the sudden disappears and the car starts running just fine.

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So far, this has had an happy ending....

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After starting the engine races at higher rate

ur cold start needs adjustment then when the engine is warm it should idle at 600 to 650 rpm
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Hyundai Veracruz 2007 Sudden engine warning light then RPM drops to idle and there is no response from accelerator. You are coasting to a stop. Gas Cap has been ruled out and accelerator sensor has been...

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