Recently I have had problems with a 2003 Ford Taurus stalling while idling at a stop sign or light. I. The engine light came on., so I took the car to Auto Zone to have the OBD engine code read. The codes were P0171 (System Too Lean (Bank 1)) and P0174 (System Too Lean (Bank 2)). The AutoZone rep. said that the 2 oxygen sensors (1 for intake, and 1 for exhaust) need replacing. Also he said that the Mass Air Flow and Idle Air Control Valve sensors needs replacing.
What I have seen is a noticeable increasing vacuum leak as the engine warms up coming from the front part of the engine directly under the intake manifold. I have followed the (aprox 1/2'' dia..) vacuum line that starts just after the MAF sensor to what appears to be a sensor or connector? I can not tell what the sensor/connector is without taking the manifold and various related components off. Anyway, when I completely disconnect this vacuum line the car dies out immediately. This sensor/connection has nothing to do with the O2 and MAF sensor. I have tried to find a vacuum routing and component diagram for the 3.0L, V6, Duratec but engine compartment has none. Can some one tell me where a vacuum diagram might be available, or what this leaking component is called so this problem can be solved?
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Im having the same problem with my car now that u had with yours.. do u happen to remember what fixed the issue? i was told a fual pump or a maf snsor.. but it sounds more like a vacuum leak.
SOURCE: p0171 and p0174 codes
P0171 System too Lean (Bank 1)
P0174 System too Lean (Bank 2)
If a car has a check engine light on and has P0171 and P0174 codes stored, the most likely cause is a vacuum leak. These codes are set by the car’s computer when it sees too much oxygen in the exhaust. Excessive oxygen readings in the exhaust will set lean codes. This does not mean that the oxygen sensors are defective. It is a common mistake for people to replace oxygen sensors when lean codes are present. Just because the code is related to oxygen sensor readings, it doesn’t mean that the oxygen sensors are bad. If both of these codes are stored this means that both banks of the engine have excessive oxygen in the exhaust. If the oxygen sensors are replaced it’s most likely that the same codes will reappear. It is very uncommon for two oxygen sensors to fail at the same time.
Therefore the most likely cause of P0171 and P0174 codes is a vacuum leak. The source of a vacuum leak can be one of many things. The most common cause of a vacuum leak is a leaky hose. Vacuum hoses over time can become dry and brittle. The rubber deteriorates and can leak causing a vacuum loss. Many times a leaky vacuum hose can be found by listening for a hissing sound. A large vacuum leak can even make the car run rough at idle. In some cases it will not idle without feathering the gas pedal.
SOURCE: 1999 ford taurus emission reading p0171 and p0174
just tune up ur car periodicly, clean filter. clean ur sparkplug.
SOURCE: 2005 Ford Taurus SE 3.0L V6 OBD Codes P0171 and P0174
The P0420 code is a Catalytic converter efficiency code check the compression.Swap the #1 injector to a different location to see if the code follows.Test the coilpak. A cracked exhaust manifold is the most likely cause p0171 and 0174 Induction air leaks, vacuum or some kind fuel restriction, weak fuel pump, restricted fuel filter etc.You also could have an exhaust leak near the upstream o2 sensor. If youtake it in they will probably use smoke to find out where the leak is.
SOURCE: what do these trouble codes mean p0171 and p0174
po171 is system too lean,bank 1,po174,is system too lean,bank 2,It sounds like a fuel pressure problem.
SOURCE: OBD Codes P0401; P0171; P0174. EGER valve sensor
p0401 egr flow insufficient. p0171 system to lean ( bank 1 ). p0174 system to lean ( bank 2 ). common problems that trigger p0401--
It
can be low fuel pressure issue or clogged fuel pump. Or its engine related
issues,---------------
Check
the help link mentioned below to troubleshoot the problem: ------
Engine stalls when gas is given?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/engine-stalls-when-gas-is-given.html
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Car stalls when MAF sensor is connected?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/car-stalls-when-maf-sensor-is-connected.html
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Car Engine Stalls While Driving?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/car-engine-stalls-while-driving.html
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Car stalls and throws white smoke from exhaust?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/car-stalls-and-throws-white-smoke-from.html
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Stalls And Dies At Stop Sign?
http://www.howtobyme.blogspot.com/2012/07/stalls-and-dies-at-stop-sign.html
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GMC Sonoma Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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Nissan Pathfinder stalls and bucks on Acceleration?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/nissan-pathfinder-stalls-and-bucks-on.html
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1992 Chevrolet stalls and shutdown?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/04/1992-chevrolet-stalls-and-shutdown.html
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Stumbling and stalling at idle after engine rebuild?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
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1990 mazda 323 stalls and quit running?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/1990-mazda-323-stalls-and-quit-running.html
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2000 Toyota
Camry: Idling and Stalling Problem?
http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/2000-toyota-camry-idling-and-stalling.html
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1995 Toyota
Corolla: Stalls, Sputters and Pops Through Intake Manifold?
http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/1995-toyota-corolla-stalls-sputters-and.html
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1999 Toyota Camry: Erratic stalling and high engine RPM at
idle?
http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/1999-toyota-camry-erratic-stalling-and.html
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Dodge Dakota stalls, stumbles at idle. Has low fuel flow and
runs hot?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/dodge-dakota-stallsstumbles-at-idlehas.html
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1994 Toyota
4Runner: Stalls and Stops While Driving?
http://whatisbyme.blogspot.in/2012/05/1994-toyota-4runner-stalls-and-stops.html
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1997 Toyota Camry: Erratic Idle and Intermittent engine
stalling?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/04/1997-toyota-camry-erratic-idle-and.html
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Ford Maverick: No Idle and Stalling issues?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/04/ford-maverick-no-idle-and-stalling.html
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These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues.Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
Bad miss at idle?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/01/bad-miss-at-idle.html
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Stumbling and stalling at
idle after engine rebuild?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
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1999 Ford F-150 Idles rough and quits when gas
pedal is pressed less?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
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Engine stumbles coming off idle when warm?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
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Erratic idle on car?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
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Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/cold-start-problem-and-vehicle-shudder.html
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Low idle when cold out side?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
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GMC Sonoma Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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GMC Idle Air Control (IAC)
Valve Replacing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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1996 Camry intermittent
engine failure while idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
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Engine quits at idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
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Car overheats and Air blows
hot at idle?
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
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High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
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While stop engine idles
like cylinder missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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Idle flair is noticed on car? Rough idle? car
will not idle? Erratic idle speed?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
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High rpm in neutral? Inconsistant high RPM in
neutral?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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Vehicle stumbling at idle
and shows code 54?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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Rough idle, staling and Erratic shifting?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
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While stop engine idles
like cylinder missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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These
details will help.
Thanks.
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Make sure it's not a vacuum leak. I had this same problem and the codes read for oxygen sensors but it was actually a deteriorated PCV valve elbow which connects to the intake manifold. I put my thumb over the hole in the valve and my engine didn't idle rough anymore. It's a special order part and only $16.99 at AutoZone.
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